So what do people think is it still worth running?

I mean yeah its still good but i find myself not even using it that much on my turn but just to slow my opponent down and make it harder to pass CCs

and in a water deck its just another 4cc that can be avoided since it isnt as good as it once was

with just Program Mal in, that is good enough. Even when it wasn't Errata'd I found my sel fusing it as a spam foundation to pass checks more than anything.

Of course it is.

"Here, allow me to commit that extremely important foundation so that it does not ready during your turn."

All the ChinaBox errata meant is that you're going to have to start running more attacks and stop wimping-out behind a wall of lameness. Order's got it pretty good, what with Ira-Spinta + Reppa + High Plasma generally being the kill.

Worth running in Hata.

Probably more useful off air. Also the errata is your "attack" not your "turn" correct? I havent played water in a long time but aren't reversals the thing to do...would help get rid of that holding ground or whatever...

Yes, your attack is correct.

Oh, and with Bitter Rivals gone, you can finally play reversals again! =D

Da_ghetto_gamer said:

in an air deck it is neccassary as it's some of airs only control. in an order deck it's normally a 3 of or 2 of. in water however you can sometimes go without it because you can't afford a 4 check. overall, china box is still good, just not a staple outside of air.

I'm gonna be playing Soiree off of Air with iSpin.

You tell me if it's worth playing.

MegaGeese said:

hell yeah. you got 2 chineese boxing, that means your opponent commits 2 foundations every time you play an attack. with soiree and shooting cap and angel of the eveining, it's not like china box will every be commited.

MegaGeese said:

Wait are you saying your not going to be playing order at worlds did hell just freeze over?