I'm completely serious when I say this

By ParaGoomba Slayer, in X-Wing

Jesus, the absolute and baseless certainty of both claims is mind boggling :wacko:

Hey guys, anecdotal evidence one way or another is all well and good, but you're jumping to the wrong conclusion. It's not a.) a phantom will always eventually be in arc and it's not b.) a phantom will never be in arc

Here's all you can draw from the experiences of both sides:

A B-wing can catch a phantom with tactician

A phantom can go a whole game without being caught.

The only certainties are the game mechanics and how stress (re: lack of actions) affecs these expensive, action dependent ships (provided you can stress them).

Everything else is down to how you and whoever you are playing against act based on the above information

So can we stop with the "never" and the "will" and "has to" and all that crap? Please?

Edited by ficklegreendice

Ionizers, or anyone else with on-hit effects.
Swarm.

Other control lists.

Swarm.

Anyone of PS 3+ who can get out of Range 2.

Swarm.

Any ship with multiple attacks.

Swarm.

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Ionizers, or anyone else with on-hit effects.

Swarm.

Other control lists.

Swarm.

Anyone of PS 3+ who can get out of Range 2.

Swarm.

Any ship with multiple attacks.

Swarm.

I think you forgot the swarm :P

but yeah, B-wings hate deaths by a thousand stings. Normally, plentiful 2-dice attacks suffer because they keep getting rolled over by 3+ green dice. B-wings, though? they got one :(

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accurate representation of swarms versus B-wings is accurate

Edited by ficklegreendice

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I love this image. It's funny every time.

Now if only we throw out the "Mistakes were Made" comic one more bloody time...

Edited by DraconPyrothayan

4 Blue Squadron B Wings, each with an extra seat and a Tactician is the best 100 point build in the game.

What actually counters this build? Only thing I can think of is a swarm. Anything else just gets bogged down in stress.

Phantom would die soon after getting double stressed.

Fat turrets lose out on boost once they get stressed, then they can just burn it down once they pile stress on it.

Dual Aggressors and PtL Soontir are super doomed.

Yeah, Tycho doesn't care about Tactician but once you've put 30+ points into an A Wing you've already lost.

I flew tycho against this exact build in a store championship and got a draw. The B's eventually got to second place (I ended up third.) Both he and I suffered against a really well done Biggs and blues team that won the whole thing.

Tycho Chelu fears not the pointed finger... :ph34r: