And yes, this fellow is probably a tad uber. I can pop a link to what I have. I don't want to really put it up on the forums outside the main Sector Catalog for... well... reasons that would quickly become apparent.

I'm kinda hoping I can hide this one in the back of the book... since it is who he is, but OMG.

any offers to look it over would be appreciated,

SRO

Well, I'm just about everywhere now.

Coming over from the other forums to look for help on a major NPC. Lord Inquisitor Abidel the True in fact. Since I don't have the book for veterans and such I'd like someone to look over what I have on his sheet so far and tell me if this is possible, breaks some rule I don't know about, or is just ridiculous but not unattainable.

I put the problems with Abidel succinctly in another thread:

Here's a note that should be important. I'm going to be starting off with the people and ships you could find or know about anywhere in the sector. For DH the Lord Admiral, Lord General, Lord Sector, Pontifex(think that's the name of the ministorum boss), and most commonly met Inquisitor. For RT, a few of the Traders, their ships, and the most famous ships of the navy and ruinous powers. For Deathwatch, Lord Inquisitor Abidel, the near mythic figure for which the sector was renamed.

These are the sector mainstays and elite. The ones you could meet anywhere, or at least not in one specific sub.

Why would I be noting this you ask? Well, they're also the people with the most immense xp pool and stats, given their decades, or for some, millennia of service, wide travels, and hell... one fought in the Great Crusade. I'm pointing this out because I don't want anyone to think they are the "normal" power level, or that this sector is full to the gills of OP. Like the Ordos Infinitas they are unique npc powers that generally work behind the scenes and an average acolyte or beginning rogue trader would probably have a nerdgasm just meeting one of them. I can't really do anything about them being uber, because they would be .

And yes, this fellow is probably a tad uber. I can pop a link to what I have. I don't want to really put it up on the forums outside the main Sector Catalog for... well... reasons that would quickly become apparent.

I'm kinda hoping I can hide this one in the back of the book... since it is who he is, but OMG.

any offers to look it over would be appreciated,

SRO

So you need someone to check a character sheet isn't theoretically broken as hell?

What's the context, who are you using him with/for/against etc and what system? I might offer to have a look.

Context, hmm.

I'm doing a list of all the background NPC's for my fleshed out, homebrew Sector. This would be the person who, just after the age of Apostasy, led the forces of the Imperium in their crusade to reincorporate the Sector which had been lost to stellar phenomenon a few thousand years before. It would be similar to stating out Drusus or Anvegelin(sp?) had he not stuck around and only disappeared a century ago.

The creation system is Deathwatch, as he is a Space Marine, and has done a few tours on the long watch in the past.

For use, in the modern context he would be a missing legend as of 969.M41 the year I'm doing the sector in. However in 815.M41 he would still be active as a Lord Inquisitor two sectors to the Galactic North of Calixis.

I suppose you could say he's a Heroic or Living Legend depending on time period and either an inspiration background character or distant legend to aspire to, depending on who you're asking in the Imperium. For a black crusade character he would be a horrible bogeyman, faceless minion of the false Emperor that brings indiscriminate death.

Is that enough information?

Do you really need a character sheet for this kind of character? Someone who is this 'Epic' shouldn't even be rolling, much less stated out. It's like Darth Vader in a Star Wars game. He just accomplishes what the narrative needs him to accomplish.

There's an old D&D saying "If it has stats, I can kill it." If this person is more of a plot device than an associate or enemy, they really don't need stats.

(Note: I don't stat my Inquisitor Lords for my RT game, and I hardly stat my opposing RTs, just their ships.)

True, but I find leading in with too many Deus Ex Machina characters and ships hurts the playability of a setting.

I've played a few games where I felt like the whole thing was a showcase of the GM's SUPER AWESOME© characters and how they were going to come in and save our azz.

From those experiences I've learned don't be a @#%$ STAT EVERYTHING. Saving your big guys from your screwups is the job of fate points just like for everyone else.

I keep one Deus Ex per setting. Period. Abidel, who isn't a part of the current setting doesn't get the nod.

Fair enough, I've had the opposite problem of a game (different system, some time ago) degenerating into the GM rolling dice, then getting stuck because the NPC didn't succeed in the check they needed to succeed in for us to continue. And I've found more GM Characters of Awesome that are stated then unstated, otherwise they can't show how awesome they are. So it's a case of YMMV.

Anyway, when I make major characters that actually need stats, I don't bother with the character creation trees - after all they're not 'standard' characters. Instead I tend to just open the book and go down the skills list and record each skill at what seems appropriate. (This guy's a socialite, so +10 blather, he's got drivers though, so untrained drive...), then do the same thing with talents.

If you built according to rules, I can't help you much. My deathwatch book is packed away.

Having a statline for characters isnt a bad idea but for someone such as this they really should not want to even dare try it. Given the understanding of their backstory, the very concept of challenging this guy would be a suicidal act to the point that as a GM you would surely say: "Are you having a laugh?"

If you stat it they will kill it.

Before two level five dark heresy characters absolutely pwnd a crisis suit commander I would have debated that...

Now, I'm pretty sure it's true.

Though it isn't the point. Just making a character of uberX level to own anyone is easy. Roleplaying a character from base 0 to this level would be very interesting.

For truely legendary characters whether to stat or not to stat is for personal GM preference, though personally I would be inclined to agree with quicksilver and not stat. However if I was going to write up the character I would again agree with Quicksilver and simply write the stats that you think he should have.

The character's experience is probably boundless so using the experience points system is rather redundant. In fact for these types of characters thinking about what their weaknesses are might be a better way of going and stat them accordingly.

Finally think about when and how they will be included in the game. Introducing powerful characters much less legendary characters can often be awesome for the GM but equally can be quite boring for the players. It needs to be handled very carefully.

In my deathwatch campaign there are a handful of truly awesome NPCs, these include the Fortress Commander the Chamber Militant Champion and an Ultramarine Honour Guard. However these characters are really ideals for the PCs to strive towards (Awesome leader, ultiamte warrior, wise mentor etc) rather than having much direct effect on the game. The closest that the PCs came was coming across what was effectively the climax of a completly different scenario where they saw the Ultramarine Honour Guard destroying the equivilent of a Lovecraft style 'Great Old One.

Ultimatly the PCs are the heroes of the story and detracting from that can be problamatic.