I've been reading Heir to the Jedi and I just hit the part where pirates are operating B-wing fighters shortly after the Battle of Yavin. This seems really odd to me, but nobody really knows what the new canon has to say about the B-wing, so...

Oh, and Luke is given another lightsaber right after Yavin. This one with an amethyst-colored blade. The chances of being handed one lightsaber are small, but once you have your starter, the rest come easy...

According the new canon Stormtroopers were all conscripts/volunteers instead of clones by the original trilogy. I consider that an improvement.

My gut tells me some of it might be better while much of it will be worse.

For instance, John Ostrander's Quinlan Vos/Clone Wars comics at Dark Horse will be TOUGH to beat as will Zahn's original trilogy and the inclusion of Mara Jade to the SW universe.

And I've already created "enemies" here over my thoughts on the new "Rebels" series. (Hint: I think it's terrible.) Ha.

According the new canon Stormtroopers were all conscripts/volunteers instead of clones by the original trilogy. I consider that an improvement.

Wait... When was it stated the Stormtroopers were clones? I seriously must have missed that.

I assumed the clones helped Palpatine gain power and then were phased out or simply died out before "normal humans" began taking their place within the Imperial ranks.

(From what I recall, there was even a Battlefront 2 mission where you - as a Stormtrooper- wipe out the clone facilities on Kamino...)

I think and have said previously it's going to be more of the same. Give it a few years and we will once again have a mix of great and horrible stuff all with a new gravy of contradictions poured over the top of it all.

I have read "A New Dawn", "Tarkin", and "Heir to the Jedi".

It is hard to say if they are better than EU/Legends stuff.

A New Dawn - Introduces you to Kanan/Hera from Star Wars: Rebels, but it doesn't really make you understand their characters on Rebels any more than watching the season 1 play out does. Is the story good? sure, but is it Zahn caliber? no.

Tarkin - Shows an almost meaningless story shoe-horned around 2 revelations that you don't ever care about.=, the Emperor's first name, and why Tarkin is how he is. Nowhere in the story is there anything that grabs you or makes you want to see more of a story about any of the characters. The one exciting thing is how it shows an Interdictor pop ships out of hyperspace and accidentally pops dozens of ships it didn't intend to.

Heir to the Jedi - A bit of an explanation about how Luke goes from knowing nothing about the Force in A New Hope to lifting things like in Empire Strikes Back. It is fun, but I also would rate this at Tarkin level.

After breaking them down, I think A New Dawn is the only one that has characters you want to know more about, more excitement and it feels like the best of the 3 so far.

According the new canon Stormtroopers were all conscripts/volunteers instead of clones by the original trilogy. I consider that an improvement.

Wait... When was it stated the Stormtroopers were clones? I seriously must have missed that.

Oh, back around 1977.

Dunno dun care-- child hood ruined

According the new canon Stormtroopers were all conscripts/volunteers instead of clones by the original trilogy. I consider that an improvement.

Wait... When was it stated the Stormtroopers were clones? I seriously must have missed that.

I've read that the Essential Guide to Warfare stated that still a sizeable percentage of the Stormtroopers were clones. But according to new canon that can't be cause they died out because of their rapid aging.

According the new canon Stormtroopers were all conscripts/volunteers instead of clones by the original trilogy. I consider that an improvement.

Wait... When was it stated the Stormtroopers were clones? I seriously must have missed that.

I've read that the Essential Guide to Warfare stated that still a sizeable percentage of the Stormtroopers were clones. But according to new canon that can't be cause they died out because of their rapid aging.

The first statement of Stormtroopers (of Episode IV) being Clones dates back to an official magazine in 1977. Since, there have been various contradictory statements and developments in varying levels of canon. It's such a mess that I think anyone can actually make an argument to whatever they wish the facts for their personal SW universe to be - no more clones, all clones, or a mixture.

As to the aging, even if no more Clones were made since the very start of the Clone Wars they would all be old, possibly retired, but not dead. This if you accept movie-level canon aging of double the normal rate. I know there have been new statements but without some major tweaking they seem to contradict what was actually said in movie canon

I haven't read the entire EU so i really am no authority. Ultimately it doesn't matter to me. I'll do the same as I did before. I'll pick and choose what I read or watch and find gems or turds as the case may be.

According the new canon Stormtroopers were all conscripts/volunteers instead of clones by the original trilogy. I consider that an improvement.

I'm pretty sure that was always the case. The Empire phased out clones within years of the end of the Clone Wars, and was entirely conscript/volunteer-based by the time of the original trilogy. The original EU said this too, so that's not a change.

According the new canon Stormtroopers were all conscripts/volunteers instead of clones by the original trilogy. I consider that an improvement.

I'm pretty sure that was always the case. The Empire phased out clones within years of the end of the Clone Wars, and was entirely conscript/volunteer-based by the time of the original trilogy. The original EU said this too, so that's not a change.

Not always the case, but it has been that way in all of the more recent (last 20 years) EU.

I always assumed that the clones were a huge minority within the Imperial forces (501st and the like) while ordinary humans made up the bulk of their fighting forces.

As for the quality of the new EU, it's no where near as awful as the pit of the Legends canon but it's also nowhere near the peak of it as well. So far it's been mediocre to okay for me.

My gut tells me some of it might be better while much of it will be worse.

It's unlikely to be better if they keep using the same lousy authors...

My gut tells me some of it might be better while much of it will be worse.

It's unlikely to be better if they keep using the same lousy authors...

Denning and Traviss are still on call?

My gut tells me some of it might be better while much of it will be worse.

It's unlikely to be better if they keep using the same lousy authors...

Denning and Traviss are still on call?

Traviss told everyone to sit and spin, dont think she will touch anything Star Wars ever EVVVVER again. One could only hope though.

According the new canon Stormtroopers were all conscripts/volunteers instead of clones by the original trilogy. I consider that an improvement.

I'm pretty sure that was always the case. The Empire phased out clones within years of the end of the Clone Wars, and was entirely conscript/volunteer-based by the time of the original trilogy. The original EU said this too, so that's not a change.

First (?) official report on Stormtroopers, from an official magazine in 1977, First paragraph titled, "Origin": "A cloned man is one of a group of gentically identical humans, an assembly line product"...."A clone has no mother; only his trainer," .."A clone is, physically and emotionally, a normal man"... Copied from the magazine in front of me with "Star Wars Official Poster Monthly" on the cover.

Out of the gates all Stromtrooopers were clones in the Episode IV era. In my SW universe this is no longer the case. But, canon DID have them as clones from the get go. The EU later changed things. So if you want, go with the EU and the "new" canon. Or if you want, go with the first official information we received. Your choice. As I said there is "evidence" to support whichever viewpoint you like.

to the OP, on on the fence about it. the EU that I loved happened after the movies. heir to the empire and the like. so far, we haven't had anything in that time frame. what we have gotten is scant, so far. two books and a few comics. that's not really enough to make a judgment on. on sure there will be some bad on sure there will be some good. that said, on optimistically holding my opinion until I see what they replace the EU with. if I make a judgment that it's going to be great now, I'll be overly disappointed at anything I don't like, and rant about it for.months. if I make the decision I hate it now, I'll only look to hate it. im hoping it will be good, but I'm waiting for the movies and to get more of a body of work to decide

It means Chewie is still around. I might give this new canon a chance.

According the new canon Stormtroopers were all conscripts/volunteers instead of clones by the original trilogy. I consider that an improvement.

That I think was also in old Canon. I know that in Allegiance, they comment that the Stormtrooper corps started taking volunteers 9 years prior, and it's set between ANH and ESB. The clones kept prematurely aging, though not as quickly as they were grown to maturity, so they actually didn't last long.

I have read "A New Dawn", "Tarkin", and "Heir to the Jedi".

It is hard to say if they are better than EU/Legends stuff.

A New Dawn - Introduces you to Kanan/Hera from Star Wars: Rebels, but it doesn't really make you understand their characters on Rebels any more than watching the season 1 play out does. Is the story good? sure, but is it Zahn caliber? no.

Tarkin - Shows an almost meaningless story shoe-horned around 2 revelations that you don't ever care about.=, the Emperor's first name, and why Tarkin is how he is. Nowhere in the story is there anything that grabs you or makes you want to see more of a story about any of the characters. The one exciting thing is how it shows an Interdictor pop ships out of hyperspace and accidentally pops dozens of ships it didn't intend to.

Heir to the Jedi - A bit of an explanation about how Luke goes from knowing nothing about the Force in A New Hope to lifting things like in Empire Strikes Back. It is fun, but I also would rate this at Tarkin level.

After breaking them down, I think A New Dawn is the only one that has characters you want to know more about, more excitement and it feels like the best of the 3 so far.

Could you try to use less "you" and more "I" and "me"?

My gut tells me some of it might be better while much of it will be worse.

It's unlikely to be better if they keep using the same lousy authors...

Denning and Traviss are still on call?

Traviss told everyone to sit and spin, dont think she will touch anything Star Wars ever EVVVVER again. One could only hope though.

IMO Traviss should just stay away from settings created by other people.

She has a nasty habit of forming an opinion of matters in settings then ignoring anything in prior works in the setting which clashes with her viewpoint. I think her Halo books are if anything even worse on this front then her Star Wars books.

And her attitude towards fans who don't share her opinions is insane.

According the new canon Stormtroopers were all conscripts/volunteers instead of clones by the original trilogy. I consider that an improvement.

That I think was also in old Canon. I know that in Allegiance, they comment that the Stormtrooper corps started taking volunteers 9 years prior, and it's set between ANH and ESB. The clones kept prematurely aging, though not as quickly as they were grown to maturity, so they actually didn't last long.

There is also the point that in Star Wars it takes much longer to grow a clone then to train a conscript or volunteer. Clone armies in Star Wars are really only faster to prepare for battle then non-clone forces if you are going to have to wait for the non-clones to grow from birth to adulthood rather then training already born non-clones.

Could you try to use less "you" and more "I" and "me"?

No, because the point of my comments was to show what can be learned from those books. So "You" fits better according to the audience. I fully appreciate that this was not the type of review you expected, but that does not mean i used the pronouns incorrectly.