I went to only my third ever store championship at the weekend. A mate and a bunch of his friends were going, and it was only a twelve person tourney, so good times in a casual setting seemed assured.

Because only eleven people bothered to turn up, a 'bye' system was put in place, meaning I got the bye in the first round and so settled to watch my mate's first game. From the very first moment his opponent opened his mouth, I knew it wasn't going to be a pleasant experience. Even better, once I'd finished watching the most uncomfortable game of X Wing I have ever seen, guess who I ended up with for an opponent the next round? To give a few highlights:

1. Used the dice app rather than actual dice. Now, this is a game of chance, and we all accept that sometimes the dice just aren't with us, or our opponent has a hot streak. But here is the thing - the ONLY action this guy took in any of his games all day was focus. And guess what his app would roll almost every time without fail? That's right - bunches of hits, evades and focuses. The number of times he rolled ANY blanks whatsoever throughout my entire game with him I could have easily counted on the fingers of one hand with digits to spare. Now I know that the FFG dice app is official, and to be fair, he did ask pre-game if I was happy with him using the app and having watched all the nitpicky arguing he did with my mate in their game I just let it go, but I'm pretty sure that the app at this point is broken (case in point - his last opponent (and eventual victor of the tournament) refused to let him use the app and lent him some dice and then proceeded to table him).

If that seems like a minor gripe, let's get on to the actual stuff that was irritating:

2. At one point, I roll a range 1 attack with a TIE against his un shielded B. I get two hits and a focus. I have no focus, so with the dice on the table between us in clear view I declare 'two hits' and he rolls his app and for once gets a blank. As he goes to pick his damage deck I retrieve my dice, and then he places one damage card down on Mr B. I tell him it was two damage, and he says no it was a damage and a focus. I repeat calmly that it was a range one shot and I rolled two damage and a focus, to get the snidey comeback 'well can you leave your dice on the table a little longer in future please so I have a chance to see them?' (Made a point of not moving any of my dice off the table for the rest of the game until the next attack was started).

3. At another point he clearly bumps his B into my TIE (which was my intention when I had moved it) and he spends so long messing about with the pokey out cannons jabbing the side of the TIE wing that it wiggles the TIE base slightly away. I say out loud 'wow, I thought you might get away with that' whereupon he proceeds to put a focus down on the B and declare a range one attack. (By this point I just wanted the game to be over so I didn't argue, just let it go.)

4. In his game against the eventual champ, was heard by the entire room to declare very loudly 'well not being funny but if you forget your rebel captive I'm not going to remind you about it as it's not my job'. (Which by the way - it's an auto-effect, not a 'may' card, so if he's aware of it and sees his opponent has forgotten and keeps schtum then as far as I'm concerned that's cheating pure and simple).

5. In his game against my mate, spent five minutes arguing that Soontir couldn't possibly get a double focus because that's illegal and it took three people to explain to him that the second was as a result of the stress and not an action. Then when my mate flew close to an asteroid, said that it had bumped (it hadn't) and then insisted loudly that he be properly informed of all future manouevres near asteroids so that he could properly check on them himself and make sure that he was satisfied they had been completed legally.

This is just highlights. Everyone who played against the guy agreed that he was an utter nightmare to face. Now in my case I lost to him so I'm sure that people will think it's sour grapes. Just to nix that - I lost every game I played (and in fact in my final game I was thoroughly tabled 100-0 by my mate who felt so bad at my awful dice rolling vs his superb dice rolling that he kept apologising and bear hugged me at the end when I rolled three blanks trying to evade his final attack. I have no issue with the loss to him or my other opponent that day because fun was had, trash was talked, civilised discussions were had on points of rules where needed. I didn't have fun against the first guy because he acted like such a complete tool the whole way through, definitely cheated at one point, tried to cheat at one other and used an app that seemed utterly biased for his dice rolling.

My mate, who has been to many many tourneys the last three years said that he had never come across an opponent quite that obnoxious before, and that it had spoiled his whole day. So my question (you knew there was so be coming eventually) is, what has been your worst opponent/experience at a tourney and why? And am I just being too harsh on this guy or is this genuinely behaviour that is as bad as I thought it was?

i heard about this guy from a friend of mine (i think he won the event actually). he sounds horrific, i am so sorry you had that experience. aside from some very, very slow players i haven't had any issues at x-wing tournaments at all in the last year (around 12 events attended). everyone has been absolutely superb.

Have anyone tried running a trillion-billion rolls in the dice app to check if it's fair?

Ditto. I've played in around 13 tournaments And never encountered this sort of person. I've had people who weren't too precise with their movement, but as this was their whole way of playing rather then using it to their advantage only it hasn't been an issue.

You know what you do to people like that.

Take them out back.

That's what they need jk

Next tournament, tell him he is not welcomed

Just be obnoxious back.

Most people who nitpick rules and such tend to play the game wrong anyway so it's easy to drop the fly casual attitude and point out the incorrect things they are doing etc to be a jerk back.

Had a game similar and tabled my opponent 100 zip and it was because my dice were "hot".

No, it was because he failed to position his ships correctly and I was able to get 2 vs 1 situations to my benefit with target locks and focus.... But apparently it was my dice that beat him... :-/

Water off a ducks back mate just move on & remember fly casual doesn't apply to players like him.

You should call the TO to watch him. And tell him not to come back.

Have anyone tried running a trillion-billion rolls in the dice app to check if it's fair?

One of the guys at the tourney with us ran 2,000 rolls on it during his bye, and he said that it returned stupid amounts of focus, hits and evades and almost no blanks. We think perhaps that since they integrated the new games into it, there is a corruption in the algorithm. At the end of the day, maybe I'm wrong and it was just luck, but it seemed odd that he never ONCE went with TL or barrle rolls, just focus all the way through and then would roll hits and focuses almost every single time as needed.

Well here is my story on a little cheater me and a few old mates know about. Now this was back in 2008-9 so I think it was before X-wing so I won't mention the game but I am sure you can guess. There was this one person who always played questionably. They said they had such upgrades and within the point limit but when you take a look at the list either the said upgrades were not present or the point addition was wrong. The models were modified to be higher bases thus eliminating all line of sight penalties from obstacles.

The final straw for the store was at a tournament the owner observed this player taking advantage of a newer player essentially saying that his models can move twice, attack twice, and essentially take their action. This person was banned from the store after that.

Still not the end of this saga. This person had such a reputation at said corporate organized events there had been many complaints brought up to the organizers still the organizers had said they have yet to see proof (the person might be playing nicely when under official observation).

Still this person has made such a reputation that at one of these events another participant took out their cellphone and recorded this person playing a game at an official event with all the shady game play that this person was notorious for. The participant showed the video to the organizers and they blacklisted that person from all official events.

So that is the good ending to this story, but to add humor into other people's douchbaggery here is a video mocking such behavior.

I've only seen one player like this in about 15 tournaments. I assume they are transfers from 40K or something.

Have anyone tried running a trillion-billion rolls in the dice app to check if it's fair?

The thing is, was it the REAL official app? Or some kind of cheated copy of it? This is why I think it is weird that an app that handle random is official for tournament.

4. In his game against the eventual champ, was heard by the entire room to decla very loudly 'well not being funny but if you forget your rebel captive I'm not going to remind you about it as it's not my job'. (Which by the way - it's an auto-effect, not a 'may' card, so if he's aware of it and sees his opponent has forgotten and keeps schtum then as far as I'm concerned that's cheating pure and simple).

Out of curiosity, what would happen if both people forget about the card? I've been in a similar situation where we both forgot about an auto-effect card that my opponent had and I didnt remember until after the game. He still won, but that's beside the point here.

I've never run into any nightmare players. My worst tourney experience was waaaaay back with the Kessel Run where I had two consecutive TIE swarm mirror matches that seemed to go on about about three days. Both timed out, with the winner gaining victory by destroying a single TIE on the final turn. Man that was painful.

4. In his game against the eventual champ, was heard by the entire room to decla very loudly 'well not being funny but if you forget your rebel captive I'm not going to remind you about it as it's not my job'. (Which by the way - it's an auto-effect, not a 'may' card, so if he's aware of it and sees his opponent has forgotten and keeps schtum then as far as I'm concerned that's cheating pure and simple).

Out of curiosity, what would happen if both people forget about the card? I've been in a similar situation where we both forgot about an auto-effect card that my opponent had and I didnt remember until after the game. He still won, but that's beside the point here.

Ultimately, it comes down to the fact that if the card is overlooked, you take your opponent's word for it that they forgot too. It's a trust thing, I get that. My point was rather if you are going to go to the trouble of saying, in a voice which carries to the entire rest of the room, that you aren't going to remind your opponent that their auto-effect card which has a detrimental effect on your attacks is there if they don't remember, that suggests to me that you are perfectly well aware of it and therefore deliberately counting on your opponent to forget in order to have an advantage that you shouldn't mechanically have. That to me is cheating. If both players simply forget then that's an oversight, but his voicing of the fact (and the way in which he did it) made it clear that wasn't what was occurring.

It's different from say taking an action - if my opponent forgets to focus his ships in a tourney scenario, I won't tell him (though if he remembers when I make a move and focus that he wanted to focus too then I will generally let it go) but it isn't an auto thing so me noticing he hasn't doesn't compel me to tell him. Same as any card which has a 'may' effect - Advanced Cloaking Device is a case in point - you 'may' take a free re-cloak when you have attacked, but it ISN'T an auto effect so again as far as I am concerned you are legitimately under no compulsion to remind your opponent if they forget, though in practice if they recall later it's up to you whether to allow it - indeed at the tourney in question this very thing happened and the opponent graciously allowed the re-cloak to be done (which stopped him killing the Phantom).

Fair enough if you honestly forget (it happens). But for him to just keep quiet and announce the fact later is, technically, cheating if it was an auto-effect.

4. In his game against the eventual champ, was heard by the entire room to decla very loudly 'well not being funny but if you forget your rebel captive I'm not going to remind you about it as it's not my job'. (Which by the way - it's an auto-effect, not a 'may' card, so if he's aware of it and sees his opponent has forgotten and keeps schtum then as far as I'm concerned that's cheating pure and simple).

Out of curiosity, what would happen if both people forget about the card? I've been in a similar situation where we both forgot about an auto-effect card that my opponent had and I didnt remember until after the game. He still won, but that's beside the point here.

Happened to me and my opponent in a tournament game, we put the stress from Rebel Captive while being in the Planning Phase.

Have anyone tried running a trillion-billion rolls in the dice app to check if it's fair?

I've rolled enough bad Rods on the app to go back to the Five. Yeah, it's Fine.

Played in a store championship this weekend that was a little strange. 19 players so it should ha e been either 5 rounds of Swiss with a winner declared or 3 rounds of Swiss with the top 4 going to elimination rounds.

After 3 rounds there was a cut to the top 4. After the first round of elimination the TO declared a winner because he had to get home for a TV show. Everyone was scratching their heads on this. The winners of the elimination round played on their own for the plaque and the Regional bye card.

Sounds like you met that f**king guy or TFG for short, he exists in every game circle and is the sum total of every vile thing gaming brings out in people.

Don't let him put you off and certainly never just take his crap that's what TO's are there for.

As for the app I use it and I get plenty of blanks, perhaps he'd hacked it and altered the odds.

Have anyone tried running a trillion-billion rolls in the dice app to check if it's fair?

One of the guys at the tourney with us ran 2,000 rolls on it during his bye, and he said that it returned stupid amounts of focus, hits and evades and almost no blanks. We think perhaps that since they integrated the new games into it, there is a corruption in the algorithm. At the end of the day, maybe I'm wrong and it was just luck, but it seemed odd that he never ONCE went with TL or barrle rolls, just focus all the way through and then would roll hits and focuses almost every single time as needed.

I wish I had that luck at my SC

My app lost me Luke during my final game because I blanked 3 dice on an obstructed HLC shot

I stated this in another thread: We had a guy who hacked the app. When he pressed in a certain spot he could get the rolls he needed.

As TO: I had to see it to believe it. But now I always watch app players cautiously. He was the first one I truly found had hacked the app. We no longer allow him to use the app when he plays in our tournaments. Surpisingly he hasn't won the last two, but he still did finish in the top 4 each time.

Played in a store championship this weekend that was a little strange. 19 players so it should ha e been either 5 rounds of Swiss with a winner declared or 3 rounds of Swiss with the top 4 going to elimination rounds.

After 3 rounds there was a cut to the top 4. After the first round of elimination the TO declared a winner because he had to get home for a TV show. Everyone was scratching their heads on this. The winners of the elimination round played on their own for the plaque and the Regional bye card.

actually with 17-32 players it should have been 4 rounds of swiss and a top 8, as directed in the rules for conducting a store champs (found in the store champs kit)

Not sure how many people on here play X wing via Vassel but that obviously uses random generated dice and I have on more than one occasion played a no blanks game, from either player, on both sets (red and green). There is no way a computer can be as random as dice.

This guy sounds like a complete douchebag. maybe one day people will just concede all games against him so he doesn't get to play anyone.

I stated this in another thread: We had a guy who hacked the app. When he pressed in a certain spot he could get the rolls he needed.

As TO: I had to see it to believe it. But now I always watch app players cautiously. He was the first one I truly found had hacked the app. We no longer allow him to use the app when he plays in our tournaments. Surpisingly he has won the last two, but he still did finish in the top 4 each time.

You allow a player that had blatantly cheated to continue to attend events?