Aliens in DH?

By TalkingMuffin, in Dark Heresy

Varnias Tybalt said:

cyclocius said:

Thanks for the answers :) I've only seen Alien, Aliens, ALien 3 and AvP (the last 2 sucked beyond belief) and the queen appeared to be in a harness when laying eggs ^^

Now that I know queens are formed due to lack of Alien proximity my alien overtake of Scintillia will work....>.>

You haven't seen Alien: Resurrection? (the fourht movie in the alien franchise) In that case, check it out! Although it is no way near as good as the first three it is several hundred times better than AvP.

About AvP, the "harness" in that movie was something to restrain the queen (and it was possibly built by human hands) in the temple as to provide the predators with xenomorph prey.

I'll get round to watching it sometime, it can't be worse than AvP or Alien 3 ^^ Though apparently Ripleys a robot or something o_O

Also, yeah I gathered the queen in AvP was restrained by human means :P Unless Xenomorphs have a special type of Chain gestation.....

Haha, Ironic thought, an Alien Hive, inside a hive ^^

I make myself larf sometimes :P

cyclocius said:

I'll get round to watching it sometime, it can't be worse than AvP or Alien 3 ^^ Though apparently Ripleys a robot or something o_O

Also, yeah I gathered the queen in AvP was restrained by human means :P Unless Xenomorphs have a special type of Chain gestation.....

Haha, Ironic thought, an Alien Hive, inside a hive ^^

I make myself larf sometimes :P

Seriously, Alien 3 isnt a bad movie. It's just not a space marines killing alien monsters sci-fi/action/horror movie like the second one. I guess some of the viewers where expecting something like that and feel somewhat robbed when they watch Alien 3.

But I sincerely urge people who don't like Alien 3 to watch it again. Especially of you're a WH40K fan, because the imagery and some of the themes in Alien 3 have a lot more similarities with WH40K than the other alien films have. You have for instance a penal world, doomsday cultist inmates, enviroments that could be straight out of a hive city, a really dark and gritty feel throughout the movie, a lot of hard sci-fi elements etc. And for chrissake, they use CANDLES to light up dark maintenance corridors! Can it be more 40K than that? gran_risa.gif

Varnias Tybalt said:

cyclocius said:

I'll get round to watching it sometime, it can't be worse than AvP or Alien 3 ^^ Though apparently Ripleys a robot or something o_O

Also, yeah I gathered the queen in AvP was restrained by human means :P Unless Xenomorphs have a special type of Chain gestation.....

Haha, Ironic thought, an Alien Hive, inside a hive ^^

I make myself larf sometimes :P

Seriously, Alien 3 isnt a bad movie. It's just not a space marines killing alien monsters sci-fi/action/horror movie like the second one. I guess some of the viewers where expecting something like that and feel somewhat robbed when they watch Alien 3.

But I sincerely urge people who don't like Alien 3 to watch it again. Especially of you're a WH40K fan, because the imagery and some of the themes in Alien 3 have a lot more similarities with WH40K than the other alien films have. You have for instance a penal world, doomsday cultist inmates, enviroments that could be straight out of a hive city, a really dark and gritty feel throughout the movie, a lot of hard sci-fi elements etc. And for chrissake, they use CANDLES to light up dark maintenance corridors! Can it be more 40K than that? gran_risa.gif

It's not that it wasn't as actiony as Aliens, it was....I dunno, Alien was Ripley running scared from an Alien. Aliens was Ripley with a military squad and Ripley kicked arse. Alien 3 felt...I dunno, like I was being forced back into Alien when the concept just didn't scare me anymore. But that may just be me :P I'm watching Ressurection now it's....pretty bad honestly :/

The setting of Alien 3 wasn't bad, not at all, it was unique, but the characters just felt flat to me :/ Oh well ^^

Ressurection just ended. Complete rubbish.

UncleArkie said:

Well any alien is a "Xenomorph" it just means foreign or alien form, something non-human if you will.

Not quite. Xeno, meaning foreign or alien, and morph, meaning changing form, or just change. So literally, it's an alien that changes, referring to the different stages of the alien's life (egg, face-hugger, warrior/drone/queen/whatever).

If you want to incorporate xenomorphs into your 40k game, I can think of 2 options that will work. Sadly, both require 'nids.

1. Xenomorphs are an alternate strain of advance-invasion 'nids, different than a genestealer. If Genestealers are the subtle infiltrators, the xenomorphs are the shock troopers more or less. One or two eggs can spawn an entire colony if enough creatures are living within the foraging ranges of the 'morphs. They can quickly consume and prepare ecologies for 'nid swarm consumption. Think of them as 'nid terraformers. By the time the swarm gets there, the planet has been consumed and the resources processed into an easy-to-use form already.

2. The xenomorphs are the original strain of 'nids. It is said that the morphs take on certain characteristics of the facehugger host, which is why the original alien had such human qualities. In (rejected) scripts there were dog aliens and other types of aliens. So it's obvious that over time the xenomorphs will evolve. Colonies of morphs over the millennia have consumed and separated from other colonies and have become the 'nids.

Also, the name of the ship from the first movie is the Nostromo. The gunship in the second is the Sulaco. There is no further movies in the Aliens franchise after the second movie, and no amount of heresy will ever convince me otherwise.

Also, I see no reason why orcs couldn't be a host to the xenomorph. It basically is just a warm, wet, safe place for the chest burster to gestate.

Even if orcs were immune, I don't see a "desperate alliance" being forged. The 'umies would come up to the orcs, da boyz would take one look at da 'umies, and then... DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA CHOPPA CHOPPA CHOPPA CHOPPA... Aww 'ook... no more 'umies... let's get a WAAAAAAGH! going so we can go kill more 'umies!

Remember, the entire purpose of the orcs is to outbreed any enemy they might have. I don't think xenomorphs could possibly make enough eggs to contain the orcs. Every time a chest-burster would kill an orc, the orc would release spores and in a few years you'd have even *more* orcs to deal with.