Maybe if the topic was horse breeding you'd be useful, but not for air combat.

I was top in my aviation class in 2000. My teacher was a Vet from Nam and he thought I should be teaching his class. Trust me I know wha I'M talking about.

Perfect. Which aviation class? Which branch of the service? What specific class number? What was your instructor's name? What aircraft were you flying?

And he conveniently logs off when asked for that information...

I never logged off.

Well, thanks for having the courage to admit you don't know those individuals and to clarify (somewhat) your associations.

I'm very much concidering taking classes for aerial fire fighting after I'm done with my current job.

Oh, know much about smokejumping?

I'm very much concidering taking classes for aerial fire fighting after I'm done with my current job.

Oh, know much about smokejumping?

Probably not much... flying in those conditions can be frightning from what I'VE seen. I just want/need to do something with my piloting talents. Saving animals and people from fires, or atleast trying to seems like a good thing to do.

Its better than what I'm doing now. I can only do flight simis now, maybe if I hadet been so picky I would be flying fo the NAVY now, excluding moral conflictions.

Ys are NOT ugly enough to be called warthogs....

I don't know, I have a Y-wing that is crooked not enough to be too deformed but enough to notice, and noticing that makes it ugly!

Probably not much... flying in those conditions can be frightning from what I'VE seen. I just want/need to do something with my piloting talents. Saving animals and people from fires, or atleast trying to seems like a good thing to do.

Its better than what I'm doing now. I can only do flight simis now, maybe if I hadet been so picky I would be flying fo the NAVY now, excluding moral conflictions.

Eh, wrongdoing is all a matter of degree. What does it really matter, dropping a bomb on someone, when the amount of fossil fuels you'll be burning into our atmosphere will kill all of us eventually anyway?

I knew a guy in basic who decided he didn't want to be in the infantry, after the drill sergeants waxed comical about the killing of women and children. He managed to get out for having a history of mental illness, but not before he became a total pariah to our platoon. They dared him one day to prove that he was crazy by rubbing Icy Hot on his genitals; he did so, and immediately regretted it. BKL, don't be that guy. Keep the Icy Hot away from your genitals, and accept that you were destined to be a killing machine.

So I'm a bit late to this thread and specifically the whole TBD-TBF thing from like page 7, but just to be more difficult, the TBM Avenger, specifically the TBM-3 was the version that was produced the most by the end of WWII.

The TBD Devastator was garbage but then again, so we're all of the torpedoes that the U.S. used in the beginning of the war (isn't it funny how most torpedoes in this game are kinda useless making the ordinance carriers fairly useless too?)

Now if you want to talk about Garbage U.S. Aircraft, the Brewster F2A Buffalo holds the title of "The Flying Coffin". I mean, at least the Curtis P-36 Hawk scored victories during the attack on Pearl...

So I'm a bit late to this thread and specifically the whole TBD-TBF thing from like page 7, but just to be more difficult, the TBM Avenger, specifically the TBM-3 was the version that was produced the most by the end of WWII.

The TBD Devastator was garbage but then again, so we're all of the torpedoes that the U.S. used in the beginning of the war (isn't it funny how most torpedoes in this game are kinda useless making the ordinance carriers fairly useless too?)

Now if you want to talk about Garbage U.S. Aircraft, the Brewster F2A Buffalo holds the title of "The Flying Coffin". I mean, at least the Curtis P-36 Hawk scored victories during the attack on Pearl...

The P-36 Hawk, in many respects, was superior to the P-40 which replaced it. It was lighter, it climbed more quickly, and it turned better. It only lost out to the P-40 in speed and diving speed, which turned out to matter more in the long run. However, the export versions, the Hawk 75A-3s and A-4s, which were sent to France were the best-performing French aircraft in the Battle of France in 1940. While the Dewoitine D.520 was technically superior in most performance analyses, the Hawks had the best combat record.

The Brewster Buffalo was exported as well, to Finland as the B-239. Finnish pilots loved the Buffalo and it had a stellar combat career against the Soviets all the way up until 1944 when most Lentolaivues had converted to the Bf-109G. Granted, its career in the USN was much less stellar, but this may be due to the load out it had (many of the US planes were badly overweight with the gear they carried, particularly those in naval service) and also because of the nature of the opposition. Everything the Buffalo was good at, the Zero was better at. That didn't make the Buffalo a complete dog, it just meant that it was outclassed in the Pacific where it wasn't on the northern sector of the Eastern Front.

Probably not much... flying in those conditions can be frightning from what I'VE seen. I just want/need to do something with my piloting talents. Saving animals and people from fires, or atleast trying to seems like a good thing to do.

Its better than what I'm doing now. I can only do flight simis now, maybe if I hadet been so picky I would be flying fo the NAVY now, excluding moral conflictions.

Eh, wrongdoing is all a matter of degree. What does it really matter, dropping a bomb on someone, when the amount of fossil fuels you'll be burning into our atmosphere will kill all of us eventually anyway?

I knew a guy in basic who decided he didn't want to be in the infantry, after the drill sergeants waxed comical about the killing of women and children. He managed to get out for having a history of mental illness, but not before he became a total pariah to our platoon. They dared him one day to prove that he was crazy by rubbing Icy Hot on his genitals; he did so, and immediately regretted it. BKL, don't be that guy. Keep the Icy Hot away from your genitals, and accept that you were destined to be a killing machine.

Funny, we had a guy exactly like that. Icy Hot and all. The difference was that everyone wanted that dude to quit and he hung around long enough to fail at the grenade range. The drills and the First Sergeant couldn't get that dude to sign the LOM paperwork fast enough.

Hey now, grenades are tricky business. I **** near caught myself on the secondary safety with my torn up shooting gloves while I was in Afghanistan. Needless to say, I never made that mistake again.

Probably not much... flying in those conditions can be frightning from what I'VE seen. I just want/need to do something with my piloting talents. Saving animals and people from fires, or atleast trying to seems like a good thing to do.

Its better than what I'm doing now. I can only do flight simis now, maybe if I hadet been so picky I would be flying fo the NAVY now, excluding moral conflictions.

Eh, wrongdoing is all a matter of degree. What does it really matter, dropping a bomb on someone, when the amount of fossil fuels you'll be burning into our atmosphere will kill all of us eventually anyway?

I knew a guy in basic who decided he didn't want to be in the infantry, after the drill sergeants waxed comical about the killing of women and children. He managed to get out for having a history of mental illness, but not before he became a total pariah to our platoon. They dared him one day to prove that he was crazy by rubbing Icy Hot on his genitals; he did so, and immediately regretted it. BKL, don't be that guy. Keep the Icy Hot away from your genitals, and accept that you were destined to be a killing machine.

Being young and dumb I used Ben G a y on a vicious case of chafing while in basic. Hurt like holy hell but killed it dead. Good times......

So I'm a bit late to this thread and specifically the whole TBD-TBF thing from like page 7, but just to be more difficult, the TBM Avenger, specifically the TBM-3 was the version that was produced the most by the end of WWII.

The TBD Devastator was garbage but then again, so we're all of the torpedoes that the U.S. used in the beginning of the war (isn't it funny how most torpedoes in this game are kinda useless making the ordinance carriers fairly useless too?)

Now if you want to talk about Garbage U.S. Aircraft, the Brewster F2A Buffalo holds the title of "The Flying Coffin". I mean, at least the Curtis P-36 Hawk scored victories during the attack on Pearl...

The P-36 Hawk, in many respects, was superior to the P-40 which replaced it. It was lighter, it climbed more quickly, and it turned better. It only lost out to the P-40 in speed and diving speed, which turned out to matter more in the long run. However, the export versions, the Hawk 75A-3s and A-4s, which were sent to France were the best-performing French aircraft in the Battle of France in 1940. While the Dewoitine D.520 was technically superior in most performance analyses, the Hawks had the best combat record.

The Brewster Buffalo was exported as well, to Finland as the B-239. Finnish pilots loved the Buffalo and it had a stellar combat career against the Soviets all the way up until 1944 when most Lentolaivues had converted to the Bf-109G. Granted, its career in the USN was much less stellar, but this may be due to the load out it had (many of the US planes were badly overweight with the gear they carried, particularly those in naval service) and also because of the nature of the opposition. Everything the Buffalo was good at, the Zero was better at. That didn't make the Buffalo a complete dog, it just meant that it was outclassed in the Pacific where it wasn't on the northern sector of the Eastern Front.

I literally have nothing to add. You hit all of the positive points of an aircraft that did terrible for the U.S. but respectably for foreign air forces.

I literally have nothing to add. You hit all of the positive points of an aircraft that did terrible for the U.S. but respectably for foreign air forces.

So I'm a bit late to this thread and specifically the whole TBD-TBF thing from like page 7, but just to be more difficult, the TBM Avenger, specifically the TBM-3 was the version that was produced the most by the end of WWII.

The TBD Devastator was garbage but then again, so we're all of the torpedoes that the U.S. used in the beginning of the war (isn't it funny how most torpedoes in this game are kinda useless making the ordinance carriers fairly useless too?)

Now if you want to talk about Garbage U.S. Aircraft, the Brewster F2A Buffalo holds the title of "The Flying Coffin". I mean, at least the Curtis P-36 Hawk scored victories during the attack on Pearl...

The P-36 Hawk, in many respects, was superior to the P-40 which replaced it. It was lighter, it climbed more quickly, and it turned better. It only lost out to the P-40 in speed and diving speed, which turned out to matter more in the long run. However, the export versions, the Hawk 75A-3s and A-4s, which were sent to France were the best-performing French aircraft in the Battle of France in 1940. While the Dewoitine D.520 was technically superior in most performance analyses, the Hawks had the best combat record.

The Brewster Buffalo was exported as well, to Finland as the B-239. Finnish pilots loved the Buffalo and it had a stellar combat career against the Soviets all the way up until 1944 when most Lentolaivues had converted to the Bf-109G. Granted, its career in the USN was much less stellar, but this may be due to the load out it had (many of the US planes were badly overweight with the gear they carried, particularly those in naval service) and also because of the nature of the opposition. Everything the Buffalo was good at, the Zero was better at. That didn't make the Buffalo a complete dog, it just meant that it was outclassed in the Pacific where it wasn't on the northern sector of the Eastern Front.

I literally have nothing to add. You hit all of the positive points of an aircraft that did terrible for the U.S. but respectably for foreign air forces.

Thanks!

I literally have nothing to add. You hit all of the positive points of an aircraft that did terrible for the U.S. but respectably for foreign air forces.

Blazing Saddles is one of the best movies ever.

Hey now, grenades are tricky business. I **** near caught myself on the secondary safety with my torn up shooting gloves while I was in Afghanistan. Needless to say, I never made that mistake again.

I can't say I have personally ever had a problem with hand grenades like that. That being said, I did have a Team Leader in my Platoon who tossed one with a rubber band around the spoon during a raid in 2007. He was originally a Squad Leader so I will let you piece that one together. LOL.

I literally have nothing to add. You hit all of the positive points of an aircraft that did terrible for the U.S. but respectably for foreign air forces.

Blazing Saddles is one of the best movies ever.

Harrumph!

Blazing Saddles is one of the best movies ever.

I once had the misfortune to work directly beneath a first sergeant. The guy was a total ****, and gave me no end of grief through a deployment and a half. He once asked me what my favorite movie was, and I responded that it was Blazing Saddles. He narrowed his eyes and stared at me for a moment, and then said "that makes perfect sense, you would like that movie." To this day I have no idea what he meant by that, let alone whether it was supposed to be a compliment or an insult.

Blazing Saddles is one of the best movies ever.

I once had the misfortune to work directly beneath a first sergeant. The guy was a total ****, and gave me no end of grief through a deployment and a half. He once asked me what my favorite movie was, and I responded that it was Blazing Saddles. He narrowed his eyes and stared at me for a moment, and then said "that makes perfect sense, you would like that movie." To this day I have no idea what he meant by that, let alone whether it was supposed to be a compliment or an insult.

I think what he meant was "That's a good choice, but I was trying to lower your self-esteem by making fun of whatever movie you picked. Now, I can't do that, because Mel Brooks is a freaking genius, so I'm just going to let this one go and hope that nobody notices my plan backfired."

Clearly, clearly.

Blazing Saddles is one of the best movies ever.

I once had the misfortune to work directly beneath a first sergeant. The guy was a total ****, and gave me no end of grief through a deployment and a half. He once asked me what my favorite movie was, and I responded that it was Blazing Saddles. He narrowed his eyes and stared at me for a moment, and then said "that makes perfect sense, you would like that movie." To this day I have no idea what he meant by that, let alone whether it was supposed to be a compliment or an insult.

I am certain that the disconnect from reality happens at the moment an E-7 gets picked up by the board and assigned a sequence number. The brain is completely removed upon receipt of SGM though. My buddy and I were determined to figure out if they just picked a pet peeve like haircuts or walking on the grass from a hat in Bliss.

I've met one or two E-8s that I liked. The HHC 1SG had little enough to do while we were in Afghanistan, so he would drive a gator around the inside perimeter of our tiny FOB at night, dropping off hot soup and the crappiest army coffee you've ever tasted. It was the only respite we got while on tower guard, turning around to see the glow of his lit cigar approaching through the green lens of our NODs.

I've had a few that I liked because they were really into patrolling with us. My current 1SG is fairly down to earth and operates using common sense, but it's also a TRADOC post and he is basically managing only SSGs and SFCs (Edit) We basically run ourselves.

A little off topic

I've met one or two E-8s that I liked. The HHC 1SG had little enough to do while we were in Afghanistan, so he would drive a gator around the inside perimeter of our tiny FOB at night, dropping off hot soup and the crappiest army coffee you've ever tasted. It was the only respite we got while on tower guard, turning around to see the glow of his lit cigar approaching through the green lens of our NODs.

I've had a few that I liked because they were really into patrolling with us. My current 1SG is fairly down to earth and operates using common sense, but it's also a TRADOC post and he is basically managing only SSGs and SFCs (Edit) We basically run ourselves.

but what the heck.

So back on Topic Ah yes Y-wings .

Mainly BTL-A4 title Y-wings. and why are they called the WARTHOG.

NO NOT THAT WARTHOG!

Closer but still not there

There we go, (did we really go that far off topic )

Yeah its an A-10 reference. Tough, mean, and ugly. I might have started the trend (can't remember for sure) so feel free to blame me if you don't like the name. :-)

The Scum version with R4 Agromech is pretty terrifying.

It would indeed be very frightening if there was any pilot with good pilot skill and an elite skill. Salm has the one and renthal has the other.

I will probably go with Drea, he is well priced and his ability allows for very high Damage output. Just that at PS5 he still is Doontir and Phantom fodder!

My favorite build with him so far. Also works at 29 points with Autoblaster turret.

Drea Renthal — Y-Wing 22

Ion Cannon Turret 5

Unhinged Astromech 1

Engine Upgrade 4

BTL-A4 Y-Wing 0

Drea is a chick by the way.

nevermind it's been mentioned