Obstacles and uncompleted Maneuvers

By gamblertuba, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Sorry if this is fully addressed elsewhere but a quick search did not bring up an answer. Here's the situation:

1. A ship's chosen maneuver causes the template to overlap an obstacle.

2. The ship ends that maneuver overlapping another ship and must backtrack back to its original start location due to the presence of other ships.

3. So, the maneuver template overlapped an obstacle but the ship ends in its original position, not overlapping said obstacle.

Obviously the ship loses its action due to bumping but does the ship also roll for damage? And if obstacle was debris cloud, does the ship take stress? Assume the ship can still shoot. And just to muddy it up more, how about the Dauntless title?

FAQ page 18

Q: A ship executes a maneuver in which its template or final position overlaps an obstacle. Due to avoiding collisions with other ships, it ends up stopping before reaching the obstacle. Does it still suffer the effects of moving through or overlapping an obstacle?
A: No.

Basically everything will be treated as though you have overlapped another ship - because basically that is what has happened

When you overlap another ship at the end of your maneuver template, you don't place it back at the starting position. Instead you move your ship back along the maneuver template until your base is touching the ship you had overlapped. See the rules for overlapping and moving through other ships at page 17 of the rule book. So 1) regardless of where you end up, your template still overlapped an obstacle so you roll for damage and skip the Perform Action step and 2) if backtracking until touching ends with your ship overlapping the obstacle you also lose the ability to attack in that combat round.

Cheers for the answers. Situation I tried to describe is where a traffic jam causes the moving ship to backtrack so far that they end up more or less back at the starting position and do not end overlapping the obstacle.

Cheers for the answers. Situation I tried to describe is where a traffic jam causes the moving ship to backtrack so far that they end up more or less back at the starting position and do not end overlapping the obstacle.

Even in that case, note that the rules for obstacles state if the maneuver template or ship base overlap. You still place the maneuver template, and it still overlapped, even if you didn't move. Sure it may not make a whole lot of sense(and I can't say I've ever had this scenario come up) but by the letter of the rules you'd still take the hit. You would still get to shoot as long as your ship doesn't end overlapping though. I can't answer specifically about the debris clouds as I haven't used it.

Cheers for the answers. Situation I tried to describe is where a traffic jam causes the moving ship to backtrack so far that they end up more or less back at the starting position and do not end overlapping the obstacle.

Even in that case, note that the rules for obstacles state if the maneuver template or ship base overlap. You still place the maneuver template, and it still overlapped, even if you didn't move. Sure it may not make a whole lot of sense(and I can't say I've ever had this scenario come up) but by the letter of the rules you'd still take the hit. You would still get to shoot as long as your ship doesn't end overlapping though. I can't answer specifically about the debris clouds as I haven't used it.

Gamblertuba - You've had 2 contradictory answers here - I suggest you check for yourself.

Your question is asked, and answered, almost word-for-word on page 18 of the FAQ

https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/e3/21/e32124fe-bb23-406c-b081-0ff20b074f18/x-wing-faq-low-res.pdf

Spoiler - I'm right - Otacon is wrong

Huh. I missed your post before, interesting. It definitely makes more sense than interpreting things as written(unless there is something in the core rulebook addressing that case that I missed), though like I said it's a situation I've never had come up, at least not that I remember, so I never had reason to consider it.