3 or 4 StarVipers?

By jkokura, in X-Wing

I can see three of them (two basic and one beefed up named) being fun, but if I was going to run four boost/barrel roll ships, I would rather have four PTL RGPs.

I don't know, they seem to be pretty mutually exclusive

Vipers strike me as B-wings on spring break more than interceptors

I could see running 2 as filler ships but don't think anyone will really competitively run 3 or 4

I'm planning on two Vipers

What about

3x Black Sun Enforcers

2x Binayre Pirates

99 pts

2 ok blockers while the Enforcers can go to town against tokenless targets.

I could see running 2 as filler ships but don't think anyone will really competitively run 3 or 4

it is really rough that a base 25 points only lets you run four naked or 3 max with upgrades

Also that Xizor and Guri don't synergize (of all the ships you want to pawn hits off to, the last of them is the ******* expensive and crit-prone viper)

What about

3x Black Sun Enforcers

2x Binayre Pirates

99 pts

2 ok blockers while the Enforcers can go to town against tokenless targets.

I mentioned that one earlier in the post. I haven't tried it but it seems like it could be S&V's version of BBBBZ. It has a little less durability and firepower, but their blocking/action-denial advantage could make up for it.


Prince Xizor (32)

StarViper (31), Veteran Instincts (1)


Guri (32)

StarViper (30), Bodyguard (2)


Binayre Pirate (12) x 3


= 100



2 Vipers and 3 Z's - seems not too bad to me.

Maybe AR for Xizor

Loaded up Xizor with a pair of warthogs (BTL-A4 Y-wings with Ion Turrets) and a Z-95 could be fun. They come at you like a stampede, and Xizor would be able to slough off some hits, enabling him to make it to the later stages of the game.

Xizor getting in behind a group of damaged, ionized ships would be nice for mop up.

So far that's one of the only Xizor lists I've made that I want to fly :)

Only reason I didn't get four is that I can't imagine not taking Autothrusters on them, which means 3 is the most you can afford.

Prince Xizor (32)
StarViper (31), Veteran Instincts (1)
Guri (32)
StarViper (30), Bodyguard (2)
Binayre Pirate (12) x 3
= 100
2 Vipers and 3 Z's - seems not too bad to me.
Maybe AR for Xizor

The more I think about it, it seems like Guri is going to be the primary target in that list. I'd probably lean towards giving her Autothrusters (Lone Wolf would be cool, but I think with that many ships it would be hard to trigger.)

I have 4, but I also have a serious love of Epic Play, which probably has something to do with it.

What about

3x Black Sun Enforcers

2x Binayre Pirates

99 pts

2 ok blockers while the Enforcers can go to town against tokenless targets.

Sounds like a good enough reason to purchase 3 of them. Only got 2 on my pre-order though. 4 is almost definitely overkill outside of epic.

Prince Xizor (32)
StarViper (31), Veteran Instincts (1)
Guri (32)
StarViper (30), Bodyguard (2)
Binayre Pirate (12) x 3
= 100
2 Vipers and 3 Z's - seems not too bad to me.
Maybe AR for Xizor

The more I think about it, it seems like Guri is going to be the primary target in that list. I'd probably lean towards giving her Autothrusters (Lone Wolf would be cool, but I think with that many ships it would be hard to trigger.)

Yeah there is no reason why you shoot Xisor first.

But in the end Gury you could keep the extra focus for herself until Xizor really is damaged.

Its a damage control list. And if the Z's are going to be attacked first - well, who cares ^^

Prince Xizor (32)
StarViper (31), Veteran Instincts (1)
Guri (32)
StarViper (30), Bodyguard (2)
Binayre Pirate (12) x 3
= 100
2 Vipers and 3 Z's - seems not too bad to me.
Maybe AR for Xizor

The more I think about it, it seems like Guri is going to be the primary target in that list. I'd probably lean towards giving her Autothrusters (Lone Wolf would be cool, but I think with that many ships it would be hard to trigger.)

Yeah there is no reason why you shoot Xisor first.

But in the end Gury you could keep the extra focus for herself until Xizor really is damaged.

Its a damage control list. And if the Z's are going to be attacked first - well, who cares ^^

might as well save the two points (or drop it on a useful EPT) because even without bodyguard Guri is going to be the primary target so long as Xizor can utilize his ability

I know it doesn't seem like much to some people, but it's

1.) guaranteed damage reduction to Xizor (so long as the conditions are met)

2.) completely action/token independent (works on multiple attacks)

3.) still the case that Xizor's 3 agility is going to be higher than the Zs

all this combined means that most opponents' shots on Xizor are just going to translate to "well, I guess I should've just shot that Z you used as a shield, instead"

It is as close to the anti-Biggs as you can get in this game

But that 30 point 3 agility and largely defenseless (sans range 1) Guri...she's looking mighty squishy

Edited by ficklegreendice

Loaded up Xizor with a pair of warthogs (BTL-A4 Y-wings with Ion Turrets) and a Z-95 could be fun. They come at you like a stampede, and Xizor would be able to slough off some hits, enabling him to make it to the later stages of the game.

Xizor getting in behind a group of damaged, ionized ships would be nice for mop up.

So far that's one of the only Xizor lists I've made that I want to fly :)

I subbed one of the warthogs for Torkil w/Ion Turret and it worked out pretty well for me. Went whole hog on Xizor with predator, title, adv sensors, and autothrusters. Torkil making someone PS0 synergises pretty well with predator (until your opponet realizes that and blows up poor Torkil).

I thought about just doing the two warthogs to see how that did, you'll have to let me know.

With BBBBZ starting to be a thing, I wonder how this team would fare against it:

Black Sun Vigo + Autothruster

Black Sun Vigo + Autothruster

Black Sun Vigo + Autothruster

Black Sun Soldier

I think that a viper with Autothruster is at least on par with a B-Wing for survivability, and being PS3 and able to reposition after the Bs moved, it could really offset the one ship missing. Predator being more and more a thing, I can see boosting to PS3 as a useful thing against other teams as well.