Wow. Just. Wow.

Overall, i'm very happy with the bannings and errata; UFS is a whole new ballgame, folks!

Me likey!!!

So BRT stays, Hanzo becoms Slash Elbow loop, and Akuma is the new Chun-Li? The only real difference is you no longer have to worry about Spiral Arrow decks.

bloodocean said:

This game needs Spinta like it needs Cassandra**. I'm not trying to start an arguement, I just can't believe that was written.

I'll agree Order's taken a few big losses in the last few months to be sure...but not relevant? That's pretty bold.

All that being said, I don't think anyone can disagree with you that aggro's coming back in a major way, my friend.

bloodocean said:

Underrated card is underrated.

bloodocean said:

bloodocean said:

Yup

bloodocean said:

bloodocean said:

But I do agree that she's an obvious deck that's easy to build that people are going to gravitate toward (like Chun-Li)

Centipede said:

Slash elbow is more difficult and has to be pumped and deal damage to qualify, not quite the same.

For the record though, I totally disagree with the attack being banned, Hanzo should have been errata'd as Fei Long's Forward Kick could have been used in my Ivy deck without being belligerent.

do they realize that with all of that done the one thing they said they wanted to make sure wouldn't happen now will? Evil wins another worlds good job guys!!!

Centipede said:

Difference now is that a player should be able to force cards like Destiny into play, and they'll stay in play making Akuma more "Risky" when his ability is neutered.

koreymfh said:

Evil and fire will always be brutal, I don't care who tries to convince me of anything contrary. Other resources have risen and fallen, but these 2 have never been in the bottom half.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BLOOD RUNS TRUE SURVIVED!!!!!!

I'm very unhappy with the erratta on Feline Spike, I think the part that was actually an issue was the E that wouldnt let it be removed from the card pool (which is what made it hard to counter unless you block) and now I feel like its just unplayable because there is no good felicia to play it, you just gave a mediocre character a bawlin attack only she can use but will never be able to really win with anyway before it cycles since there probably wont be a new darkstalkers set for quite a while with the 1 set at a time.

Homme Chapeau said:

I will be celebrating by wearing a ban dana.

This SotG couldn't have made me happier.

Happy with everything, Game opens up widelike and does good stuff.

Centipede said:

BRT isn't a problem unless you choose not to run the viable ways to deal with it off nearly every symbol. Hanzo loop is Dead, slash elbow is higher difficulty and the deck doesn't have Bitter Rivals to force the damage through anymore, dead deck is dead. Akuma is in fact great, but so are a lot of guys left in the enviroment.

Yes yes yes am loving it except for the whole bitter rivals thing dats just straight up F...ed up lol..... But yes to more broken chun li

FenMiHuo said:

Wow. This SotG sure has made for some interesting comments.

koreymfh said:

If you believe this then you don't really know how to read the environment.

Archimedes said:

Not to mention both Good and Water are off the charts power wise.

when was the last time death topped anything? all evil really lost from the banning was bitter. I just don't see it yes death has control but what kill does it have?

koreymfh said:

Uh...

Well, lets start here.
Evil lost Bitter, Rejection, and Chesters.
Death lost nothing here.
Death has Martial Arts Champion now, which can stop a lot, Saikyo-ryu, inhuman perception, no memories, charismatic, destiny, cursed blood, oral dead, revenant's calling, the evil-doer destroyer, and then for kill?

Kill cards:
It still has Ichi no Tachi -> Midnight Launcher -> Knightbreaker.
It has Shredding Vibrato and Menuett Dance.
Darkness Blade, etc.

It has everything evil has now and more, except for BRT, and it doesn't even need that.

I'm incredibly happy with the bans, because I don't really play any of those cards. Bitter Rivals gone makes Hanzo Slash Elbow a ***** to do now. Everything else is a-okay by me. It means my janky decks need to be off of new symbols now

Steve i'm very happy with the bans but please move legacy worlds to later in the day!!! it won't take long hehe. b/c some of us legacy players plan on being their in teams! PLEASE!!!! i need my legacy crack addiction.

koreymfh said:

I will prove this wrong.

But in sincerity, the only reason Evil survived a lot was rejection + bitter. That is all.

- dut

Scott Gaines said:

I'm wondering if they'll let us Iron Man it, and play both. I mean really - legacy games will take what? 5-10 minutes per game? We fit them in while waiting for the World Teams Pairings?

I'm enjoying how wide open this game has just become and the discussion it just opened up. While death hasn't topped anything yet it will with these two rounds of bans. Evil lost a ton of stuff that was keeping its dominance. Rejection, BR, Chesters were all key cards. Evil and death share a TON of cards and becuase of that have often been compared. First, death can out control evil quite easily. It has trapped in a nightmare to lock things down, destiny to turn off akuma/brt/anti k, and perfect sense of balance to discourage tapping. It also has e negation in no memories that evil doesn't. Death can win the R war with inhuman perception and preventing the curse. Im sure wafflecopter can add a ton more to this. Lately the two of us have been experimenting with death, these bans do nothing but reinforce that.

Death has plenty of ways to kill people. Zi mei promo still exists and can turn anything into a kill card. Promo Blanka can generate 3 momentum very quickly for suddenly more valuable menutte dance. Tira can make midnight launcher into a multiple. Donovan can shredding vibratto for lethal quite easily as well. Set 12 also has some incredible damage pumps that are gonna see much more play soon.

FFGSteve said:

Does that mean ALL chunners EVER MADE are banned or that I can play 9Chun-li9 at worlds beacuse only the version with no dots got haxxed?