New article: Boons and Burdens in Treason of Saruman

By Glowwyrm, in The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game

I'm curious how Poinsed Counsels would work if you draw it during setup. Say it's the 2nd card you draw-- would you then discard it and the 1st card, then proceed to draw the remaining 4 cards for your initial hand? And if you decide to mulligan, will you shuffle only the cards in your hand back into your deck, or will you also put the recently discarded cards back into your deck?

I believe that the cards in your opening hand are considered to be drawn simultaneously, rather than one at a time. So you would draw all 6, then Poisoned Counsels would trigger and you would discard all other cards. As for the mulligan, the specific wording is that you shuffle "these cards" back into your deck and draw again, and doesn't mention them having to be in your hand, so I think you would simply shuffle everything back in and try again. I could be wrong though.

Oh man... If you decided to mulligan and then drew it in your opening hand you would be so screwed.

I would probably never mulligan again if I had that in my deck, as you are right, yo are goin' nowhere.

I mean, in multiplayer, mebbe someone can cover for you til you get going. But in solo? You're done.

In the case of this card though I think your opening hand is already drawn before you would add Poisoned Counsels to your deck right?

In the case of this card though I think your opening hand is already drawn before you would add Poisoned Counsels to your deck right?

Hmm, depends on how it works! The card itself doesn't give any Setup instructions. Maybe it's a one-off: you earn it for staying in Edoras, but it does not stick around for the rest of the campaign ? Otherwise it needs some kind of setup instruction, doesn't it?

In the case of this card though I think your opening hand is already drawn before you would add Poisoned Counsels to your deck right?

Hmm, depends on how it works! The card itself doesn't give any Setup instructions. Maybe it's a one-off: you earn it for staying in Edoras, but it does not stick around for the rest of the campaign ? Otherwise it needs some kind of setup instruction, doesn't it?

From the wording in the article it looks like you have a choice on 1A whether or not to go to 1B (Edoras) or 2A (Helm's Deep). So at that point the game has started and you will have already drawn your hand. (I think. I'm reading between the lines here.)

Also, this article didn't say anything about how much is left for the expansion to be released. Instead, it just said: "The Treason of Saruman is coming!" Anybody can guess how to interpret this?

This means it is coming at some point but no one knows when with all the delays and backed up shipping :( could be two more weeks or could be three months, FFG doesn't even know or they would have said something more specific even though that specific guess is often wrong.. lol