Jyn has a upgrade card, Gunslinger.

"While attacking with a pistol you can use (surge) abilities from any pistol you brought with you to the mission."

Some of my players are adamant this means that you can mix and match surge abilities for *all* pistols. IE use abilities off both pistols on the same attack.

I'm thinking it never uses a plural of pistol. It also says 'any' instead of 'every' or 'all' pistols. If its meant to be simultaneous its worded very poorly.

Thoughts?

We had a AT-ST for the first time tonight. My players were upset when it went inside the base thinking it was way too big. Nothing I could find on large figures prevented it. Perhaps I missed something, rules are kind of scattered around. Is there any differentiation for inside/outside for figure types?

RRG page 15.

Interior Spaces

Some spaces are considered interior spaces and are affected by some mission rules or keywords such as Massive. Interior spaces form the following tiles: 19A–36A and 19B–36B.

• During a campaign, figures with the Massive keyword cannot enter interior space s.

• Any space that is not an interior space is an exterior space.

• All spaces on tiles 38A, 39A, 38B and 39B are exterior spaces.

Related Topics: Massive

And page 16:

Massive The Massive keyword is found on some Deployment cards and refers to a series of special rules that apply to figures in that group.

• Figures do not block line of sight to or from a Massive figure.

• During a campaign, Massive figures cannot enter interior spaces

• Massive figures can enter spaces containing blocking terrain and impassible terrain. They can also move through and end their movement on blocked or impassible edges.

• Massive figures can enter spaces containing hostile figures and/or difficult terrain at no additional movement cost.

• Massive figures cannot enter spaces containing other Massive figures.

AT-ST can NOT enter inside the base. There is a mission or 2 where it states in the mission rules it can.

Gunslinger... I'm not positive, I assumed she could mix and match from either of her pistols she brought in.

Gunslinger is meant so that Jyn is dual wielding pistols. The additional options for surge expenditure allow her more damage output as well as more choices on what to spend surges on.

She can bring up to two weapons (in this case, it behooves her to bring pistols), and this allows her to use the surge abilities off BOTH the pistols SHE brought to the mission, not the whole group's pistols.

It is worded this way to prevent trying to roll both pistol's attack dice together. You choose a single weapon, you make an attack, you roll that weapon's dice. But with gunslinger, Jyn can choose surges off of both pistols, mix and match, or go nutbar with surges.

Yes, it's a very annoying upgrade card for us poor imperials....

You choose a single weapon, you make an attack, you roll that weapon's dice. But with gunslinger, Jyn can choose surges off of both pistols, mix and match, or go nutbar with surges

I don't think the wording supports that interpretation though. If that's the intent, they should have said pistols the 2nd time or replaced "any" with "both" or "all" instead they always use singular nouns and 'any' is ambiguous at best. Being able to choose both the best set of dice and best set of surges is already quite powerful without access to surges of both pistols. I suppose there is about zero chance FFG will hand out rulings. They seem to not be active on the forum.

Actually, it supports this use precisely. Coupled with the fact that it is a 3XP upgrade, and the 3XP and 4XP ones are pretty badass, and they need to be for later in the game.

All "gunslinger" really does is adds the surge abilities from one pistol as additional surge abilities onto another. She still has to roll those surges, she doesn't get *more* dice. She just gets more choices.

The "any" part doesn't matter, the important part is "you" which means "Jyn". The reason they write "any" is because even though the base rule set states two weapons, you have to write your rule to account for other cards that may or may not yet exist that will interact with that card (such as something that allows her to carry a third pistol). While I agree that "all" would have been a better choice over "any", it still has the same general meaning.

I have it on good authority that FFG reads the forums constantly, they just don't post. Against their company policy.

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I have it on good authority that FFG reads the forums constantly, they just don't post. Against their company policy.

I can confirm this, as I have had one FFG person visit my profile page on here.

While I agree that "all" would have been a better choice over "any", it still has the same general meaning.

Actually it really isn't well written. Any means "At least one" as well as "One at all.".

So without further clarification, it really could mean she can mix and match, as well as using surge abilities from just one pistol during any one attack.

The "any" part doesn't matter, the important part is "you" which means "Jyn". The reason they write "any" is because even though the base rule set states two weapons, you have to write your rule to account for other cards that may or may not yet exist that will interact with that card (such as something that allows her to carry a third pistol). While I agree that "all" would have been a better choice over "any", it still has the same general meaning.

The 'you' part is understood. That's not a question. Any is the most important word. Any is not inherently plural even if multiple items exist. "all" is. If there isn't additional rule support its ambiguous. Its further compounded by using the singular form of pistol. 'Any pistols' would have clearly meant pick and choose. 'Any pistol' parses to 'From the set of any pistols, pick one'. I don't know that there is further point in discussing this. Its a Intent vs RAW discussion at this point.

Q:" Does gunslinger allow you to attack with one pistol and choose another pistol to use the surges on, or does it allow you to attack and use the surges off all the pistols you have with at the the same time (IE pick one surge ability off pistol A and one off pistol B)"

A: You can use both the surges from the pistol you attacked with, and any other pistol you brought to the mission. Remember that each hero can only bring 2 weapons to a mission, however.

Justin Kemppainen
Assistant Board Game Manager
Fantasy Flight Games

Added to FAQ, glad i was on the side of correctitude on this one.

Thanks, you're doing great work there TRL.