Ok so when your Lost in Time and Space your delayed and skip your next turn. Skip your next turn does this mean...

1. Can you trade with another investigator who is also LiTaS.
2. Investigator abilities still work, Anderson's Leadership stop someone from losing 1 Sanity.
3. Be effected by Mythos Cards, Brutal Accident having the investigator LiTaS loss the 3 Stamina.
4. Get a reward from the pass condition on a rumor, Mad Boomer Rumor is passed each investigator gains 2 Clue Tokens.
5. Other Random stuff..being able to discard Clue Tokens to stop a Doom Token being placed on the AO via Hydra/ Dagon.

Our group the investigator is more or less gone but still counts for the purpose of Gates, Monsters, etc but gets no positive or negative effects from being LiTaS but of course still gets the negative effect from being LiTaS.

1) I suppose you're both in the same 'space'.

2) Not sure. Since these abilities 'refresh' in Upkeep, perhaps not.

3-5) I think these can still take effect as normal.

Hmm...I've think we have played in the that the investigator currently in LiTaS just plain and simple loses his/her turn, and does not get involved in play for one turn (until the next Upkeep). Thus ignoring game effects.

pahapasi said:

That's how we play too. It wasn't so bad if you're one one being turned to dust and you have more turn of stay of execution.

MrsGamura said:

"No" to all five questions.

Actually, "maybe" to most of them. I'm hugely confused, Ted!

Now that I think about it, it's really unclear what "skip your turn" means. It can't just be that the Lost investigator is literally skipping every phase, because that could create issues to do with the first player marker and who resolves disputes etc. The investigator is still on the board and in the game.

1. LiTaS is not a street area, an Other World area, or a location, so you can't trade. (This is a bit dodgy because the rules are not very careful about using the word 'location' consistently. Sometimes, when the rules say 'location', they mean "any kind of space on the board". However in this case, since the trade rules make a point of listing all the types of places you can be, and don't mention LiTaS, I think you can't trade there).

2. Leo Anderson has to use his ability, and the same goes for other investigators with similar abilities.Also, he can use it once per turn, and however you choose to interpret "skip your turn", I think it pretty obviously removes your ability to use a once-per-turn ability.

3. Here's where we get to the good stuff: there are some game effects which cause a rules problem if they happen to someone who is LiTaS. For example, there are no rules for going insane or unconscious while LiTaS. You'd be reduced to zero san/stam, but nothing would actually happen because there are no rules for it. Then you'd re-appear in Arkham on zero, and (this is where you're all gonna hate me) according to a strict reading of the rules, you'd be invincible... because it wouldn't ever be possible for you be "reduced" to zero again, since you're already on zero. So you'd never trigger the insane/unconscious rules, even if you took more damage in that stat. In other words, it breaks the game.

4. I don't think this is part of the Lost player's turn, so it isn't skipped. The Lost player is still on the board, so unless a rule or card specifies otherwise, he is able to be targeted by other effects.

5. Ok, I give up. I have no idea whether he can do that or not.

My instinct is to say that because a few cards (like Brutal Accident) cause the game to 'break', those cards aren't able to affect the Lost player, and since it would be absurd to make a distinction for those Mythos cards and not for others, special effects on Mythos cards can't generally affect LiTaS players unless they specify that they can. And by extension, the Lost player has to be exempted from almost all game events...

Aa sensible rule of thumb is that although the investigator is still on the board and is still affected by 'passive' or on-going effects, it's impossible for that investigator to make any choices about anything - so if it seems like he or she has the option of doing something, it can't be done. Likewise, if a card seems to suggest that the other investigators have the option of affecting the Lost investigator with something, they actually don't have that option. If something happens to "all investigators" or to "each investigator" it probably has to happen... like the rumor rewards.

Incidentally, investigators who are Lost definitely would continue to affect the monster/gate limit, because those limits are based on the number of players, not on the number of investigators. It's just rare for there to be any difference.

MrsGamura said:

Investigators in a state of delay or lost turn may REACT to anything coming at them, but may not INITIATE any action by themselves. So if someone lost their turn in an unstable location, and then a Hound pounced on them during that same turn's Mythos Phase, they still have to react to that Hound during their "lost" Movement Phase. During a lost turn, would you let someone get away with not rolling for their Bank Loan/Retainer/Curse/Blessing?

1. Absolutely not. Lost in Time and Space is just that: eons and light years long and wide. It's not a 2x2 square you can find someone else in.

2. No. Leo/Mandy may not initiate any action.

3. Yes, if they are a legitimate target. (LiTaS is NOT "in Arkham".) In these cases, something is acting upon them.

4. Yes. Same as 3.

5. No. That's an action you cannot initiate.

Question:

Didn'T Kevin clarify that "skip your turn" was old text that should actually be referring to "delayed"? That would make a difference when it comes to some of these questions.

My understanding is that delayed = "stay here next turn" but not "skip your next turn"

thats correct, "stay here not turn" aka delayed, is not the same as lose your next turn.

Ive always played the way jgt has - no actions can be initiated, period. Your turn is just stand up, and react to ****.