Star Wars Episode VII - coming to FFG

By megamen, in Star Wars: Armada

Lets not forget that after 40+ years of constant warfare it will surly have strained the galactic economy to the point of ruin. The Empire and rebellion would probably turn to existing designs rather than putting resources into designing entirely new ships. I guess we will know for sure in a few short months in any event.

In the Star Wars universe, they have had literally thousands of years refine blasters, repulsors, ion drives etc. But are those technologies at their pinnacle?

Based on the feel of the movies, I gather that tech was at a higher level during the Clone Wars. When Palpatine became Emperor, he banned a whole bunch of technologies, systematically strangled the economy, and jailed innovators or forced them into serving only the Empire. Best example I can think of is combat Droid systems.

Between the Clone Wars and Age of Rebellion, the SW Galaxy's tech went into decline. As the Rebellion gathered steam, we begin to see new innovations being used by the Rebels: X, A & B-wings for example. It seems these designs were innovative applications of existing tech.

Other thing about war, that when you are using high tech weapons, they are limited. WW2 showed that the best tank is T34, which was cheapest to build, easiest to repair and easy to operate by bunch of "Russian rednecks", and most likely T34 (or something like that) would be the main weapon of hypothetical WW3 after all expensive toys would be used in first months. NATO used most of their high tech weapons during short war in Libya for example.

Other example is well known AK47, designed at the end of WW2, 70 years later is still one of best fire arms on the planet.

At some point in such long (30+ years?) galactic conflict everybody could end up using Strike-class cruisers or Empire introducing new smaller and cheaper SD operated by droids as human resources starting to deplete. More insane that even rebels can end up to using fighters without shield due to their low cost.

I hope we see patched up and slightly modified ships with some new designs thrown in here and there. If the Empire is still around in the new movies then it's been a LONG war, possibly one that rivals the Clone Wars in devastation.

probably more devastating honestly. Yeah the Clone Wars wrecked or destroyed some worlds but it only lasted three years. This one will be going on 30 though I would be shocked if no one tried to minimize the damage to industry and such. Both sides want to rule the galaxy not destroy it.

Edit: Also there is no evidence that either side's military craft research and development efforts focused on creating new craft were completely halted during the war. IMO its certain that many of the warship and fighter models introduced in the early days of the Empire were the results of Republic design programs launched during the Clone Wars.

Edited by RogueCorona

Erm... Star Wars is a setting where technology doesn't really get any better. The stuff from KotOR and the films is essentially identical. The setting is a pretty stagnant ones as far as tech goes, so the idea that people will be using the same stuff 30 years later isn't too much of a stretch, especially if trying to recreate the feel of the original films.

Other thing about war, that when you are using high tech weapons, they are limited. WW2 showed that the best tank is T34, which was cheapest to build, easiest to repair and easy to operate by bunch of "Russian rednecks", and most likely T34 (or something like that) would be the main weapon of hypothetical WW3 after all expensive toys would be used in first months. NATO used most of their high tech weapons during short war in Libya for example.

Other example is well known AK47, designed at the end of WW2, 70 years later is still one of best fire arms on the planet.

At some point in such long (30+ years?) galactic conflict everybody could end up using Strike-class cruisers or Empire introducing new smaller and cheaper SD operated by droids as human resources starting to deplete. More insane that even rebels can end up to using fighters without shield due to their low cost.

Strictly speaking, the T34 actually had one enormous technological edge compared to RA contemporaries, specifically sloped armour. This resulted in a much greater likelihood of a deflection instead of a penetration.

Also, it is very important to note that equipment and available personnel go hand in hand. Imperials had lots of manpower and was somehow able to cheaply replace pilots, thus they use cheaper ships without shields. Rebels lacked manpower / were unable to cheaply replace pilots and hence their more expensive ships have shields.

Also, While the clone wars ended, I don't believe that the fighting actually stopped. Didn't Palps himself say if any Jedi survives it will be a civil war without end? Plenty of Jedi survived. By the time of the new movie, the rebellion that Palps himself started would have been goin on for like 60 or 70 years. A lot of bad stuff can happen in that time. Look at the fall of the Roman Empire to see the effects of long duration civil discord and the subsequent loss of technology. I forget the years, but the sayi is in 100ad Romans ha indoor plumbing, by 600ad Romans were pissing out the window.

3 years of war followed by around 19 years of skirmishing and raids with CIS Holdouts and pirates followed by a few years years of low intensity warfare with the Alliance and then maybe 3 decades of major war it was not one constant major conflict

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Erm... Star Wars is a setting where technology doesn't really get any better. The stuff from KotOR and the films is essentially identical. The setting is a pretty stagnant ones as far as tech goes, so the idea that people will be using the same stuff 30 years later isn't too much of a stretch, especially if trying to recreate the feel of the original films.

That's like claiming that an M4 Sherman is equally advanced compared to an M1 Abrams just because they are both tanks armed with cannons.

Just because Star Wars ships still use laser cannons, proton torpedoes, concussions missiles, shields, and hyperdrives does not mean that the weapons, defenses, and other technologies haven't advanced it just means they operate on the same basic principles like how a pistol from today operates on the same basic principles as one from the mid to late 1800s

Edited by RogueCorona

Judging by the fudgcicle speeder bike and the stupid cut your own hand off cross guard I'm not holding my breath for any interesting ship designs from Ep. VII.

Top that off with a soccer droid and it could be worse than Jar-Jar Binks.

Gads... such condemnation for episode 7 based on a 60 second teaser trailer... For my 2 cents I love the trailer.

Well, to be honest I never understood why am Xwing needs an astromech. Are navigation computers so expensive you need to take it out when you leave your ship (...like an expensive car radio)?

Soccer droid... Wouldn't you lose the head when the battery died?lol

Anyways, I look forward I cross guard xwings.

:)

Well, to be honest I never understood why am Xwing needs an astromech. Are navigation computers so expensive you need to take it out when you leave your ship (...like an expensive car radio)?

Soccer droid... Wouldn't you lose the head when the battery died?lol

Anyways, I look forward I cross guard xwings.

:)

Well Star Wars was made when it wasn't uncommon for computers to take up an entire room.

Gads... such condemnation for episode 7 based on a 60 second teaser trailer... For my 2 cents I love the trailer.

Likewise dude, i've got your back :D

Strictly speaking, the T34 actually had one enormous technological edge compared to RA contemporaries, specifically sloped armour. This resulted in a much greater likelihood of a deflection instead of a penetration.

As I saw in the chronic both Panther and T34 were capable to one-shot each other, I think that is the main point when you get more cheaper and mass produced platform. Russians had better tech tanks, like IS tank family, but not them won the war.

Also, While the clone wars ended, I don't believe that the fighting actually stopped. Didn't Palps himself say if any Jedi survives it will be a civil war without end? Plenty of Jedi survived. By the time of the new movie, the rebellion that Palps himself started would have been goin on for like 60 or 70 years. A lot of bad stuff can happen in that time. Look at the fall of the Roman Empire to see the effects of long duration civil discord and the subsequent loss of technology. I forget the years, but the sayi is in 100ad Romans ha indoor plumbing, by 600ad Romans were pissing out the window.

1% of Jedi isn't so much... And assuming that separatists actually were capable to raise the army at the Republic nose is telling me that Republic wasn't controlling the realm in terms of peace and order as Empire was capable for around 20 years before Endor and maybe even later according to the new lore. Actually CIS and Repuiblic reminds me more of the Roman Empire, when they had 48 Emperors with pocket armies at once. I think there were more warfare trough the Galaxy in the Republic time, then it was in dark Empire time, even with CIS holdouts.

Edited by Krass

Given that even in the post-Hoth era the Empire was still having problems halting regional conflicts I don't think they did any better then the Old Republic on that front.