Ten + Dash for Store Championship?

By 1728maxfirepower, in X-Wing Squad Lists

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Ten Numb (42 total)

+ Fire Control System
+ Autoblaster
+ Veteran Instincts
+ B-Wing/E2
+ Mercenary Copilot
Dash Rendar (58 total)
+ Outrider
+ Heavy Laser Cannon
+ Push the Limit
+ Engine Upgrade
+ Kyle Katarn
I'm concerned about putting to many eggs in 2 baskets, but Ten Numb is absolutely deadly both at ranges 1 & 3. At range 1, Autoblaster makes all his regular hits unavoidable as well as his one unblockable critical hit. Mercenary co-pilot makes it very likely he'll roll a hit at range 3. Especially with the FAQ where evade tokens cannot block these hits, and factoring in target locks with FCS, Ten is deadly. Veteran instincts is chosen over Marksmanship so that I can spend my actions barrel rolling to keep targets in arc (or perhaps out of an enemy arc), or to focus when I might need it on defense. I'm aiming to make Ten my anti-Phantom.
Dash of course is very dangerous at ranges 2-3, and I should be able to keep Ten in position to punish any ship trying to maneuver within range 1. Action economy is pretty awesome with this popular Dash build, basically getting a focus for free by pushing the limit.
Please offer me some feedback!
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I am personally not at all a fan of the auto-blaster

Imo, you'd be better off with an ion cannon. Between a phantom's 2 die defense against PS 10 and the potential lucky crit (easier with TL, which you have FCS for, or practically guaranteed at Range 3 with Merc), you're basically going to stop the single greatest threat to Dash dead in its tracks (works on annoyingly fast PTL ships, too!). At that point, you don't even have to worry about the doughnut hole.

Nub's ability is always going to be super situational without Marksmanship or the almost here Mangler Cannon, but a guaranteed ion is generally not a bad thing :)

At least, I believe that's how ion cannon interacts with Ten. Your crit is uncancellable (not even by evade actios which add the "evade" result), you hit the enemy, and you slap on a damage + a token.

Edited by ficklegreendice
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I like it, I've flown a similar dash-ten:

YT-2400: Dash Rendar (36 + 20)

+ Push the Limit (3)

+ Heavy Laser Cannon (7)

+ Nien Nunb (1)

+ Outrider (5)

+ Engine Upgrade (4)

B-wing: Ten Numb (31 + 12)

+ Veteran Instincts (1)

+ Flechette Torpedoes (2)

+ Ion Cannon (3)

+ Advanced Sensors (3)

+ B-Wing/E2 (1)

+ Tactician (2)

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I was unsure about the Autoblaster. Trading off an extra attack at range 1 and spending 5 pts to do it seems a literally dicey prospect.

I'd probably only use the ion at range 3, but I was considering that. How many ion tokens does it take to ionize a large ship again?

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Or maybe I drop the autoblaster and FCS for another HLC on Ten Numb?

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If you go to wave 6 viable stuff, youll have much more fun with Ten.

Ten Numb (31)
Calculation (1)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
Dash Rendar (36)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
Kyle Katarn (3)
Outrider (5)
Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)
Total: 100
PS9 dash with F and BR. You get a Z.
Ten Numb (31)
Veteran Instincts (1)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
Experimental Interface (3)
Dash Rendar (36)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
Luke Skywalker (7)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Outrider (5)
Total: 99
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I was unsure about the Autoblaster. Trading off an extra attack at range 1 and spending 5 pts to do it seems a literally dicey prospect.

I'd probably only use the ion at range 3, but I was considering that. How many ion tokens does it take to ionize a large ship again?

Dos ions for a large ship, but you're probably not going for ions against those unless you're facing another dash or one of those weird things with arcs that I keep hearing about--fabeled machinations of yore, no doubt.

Against large ships, you just have to hope that you can out-dice them (because turrets) and whatever bonus you gain from Autoblasters against evading ***** (or 3po) is going to be turned against Dash, anyway (assuming you never get a range one on a fatty with a B-wing, ofc). It'll help if Nub is the only thing left on the table, I suppose, but you're more than likely going to be using your primary weapon either way.

Apart from the auto to ion, the only other change I'd consider is getting 3pO (ugh...). I can't assume you have access to him, but part of peoples' reluctance to play Nub is that he's so expensive for a B-wing, and B-wings aren't tanky so much as they are spongey (they'll take some hits, but there's only so much they can stand). Getting an auto-evade every turn might help him out quite a bit, but it would make his ability even more dice based than it would be with just co-pilot.

Edited by ficklegreendice
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If you go to wave 6 viable stuff, youll have much more fun with Ten.

As much as I do love the Mangler cannon, the tournament is on saturday.

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If you go to wave 6 viable stuff, youll have much more fun with Ten.

Ten Numb (31)
Veteran Instincts (1)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
Experimental Interface (3)
Dash Rendar (36)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
Luke Skywalker (7)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Outrider (5)
Total: 99

What is the purpose the the Experimental Interface? There is nothing it can be used on since none of your upgrades take actions.

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I'm guessing Blail hit "E" in search an meant select Engine.

It's happened to me while list building in the opposite way. So in all likelihood that's probably what happened.

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my bad. I forgot EI is only with this upgrade actions.

Nah, actually, theres like a 8 pt hole there. Im really not fond of adding more upgrades to either of these ships. Honestly would rather have the Z.

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my bad. I forgot EI is only with this upgrade actions.

Nah, actually, theres like a 8 pt hole there. Im really not fond of adding more upgrades to either of these ships. Honestly would rather have the Z.

**** the Torpedoes! Or take them anyway...