Hi folks,

I'm back with yet another list for your comments, criticism and suggestions. I can't promise that this will the last I come up with, but I can promise that I like this one; a lot.

I now present to you -

Fast and Hairy V1.0

Fast

Etahn A'Baht: R2-D2, PTL, Advanced Sensors, Shield Upgrade. (46 pts)

Hairy

Chewbacca: PTL, Nien Nunb, Kyle Katarn, Millennium Falcon, Engine Upgrade. (54 pts)

The upgrades on Etahn basically give him the X-Wing equivalent of 'It Will Not Die' and 'They Shall Know No Fear' (not the watered down 7th Edition ASTKNF, but the good old one that everyone hated ).

I know he can (and will at some point) die, but it's not going to be that easy a thing to do. But above all, it's his ability to change a Damage Result to a Critical Damage result for him or his buddies, that makes you want love him, and hug him and cover him in kisses.

Add in Advanced Sensors and PTL and I can, should I choose to, give him an unpredictability that will throw an opponent off track.

R2-D2 and the Shield Upgrade add to how well he will survive. I know at 4 pts the Shield Upgrade might not be everyone's first, or even second choice, but it's an extra (potentially renewable) shield when coupled with R2-D2.

Chewie. Why Chewie and not Han or Dash? Well, to me, Fast and Hairy sounds better that Fat and Fast or The Fat Doughnut.

Ok, that's only partially true. Chewie's ability to basically ignore Crits is something that needs to be seriously considered, whilst Nien and Kyle (if used properly, and thanks to the folks in the rules forum for this one) give the YT a potential 3 actions in one turn. Add in the Engine Upgrade and the Title, and there's a headache waiting to happen.

So, what are the downsides?

Well, there're only two ships for starters. Both are PS5 meaning that I am more than likely to get shot first.

Nine Shields and ten Hull points, aren't that many, hard to get down, but not impossible.

There are only certain conditions that will allow some of the combos to work, and a good opponent will try to exploit that to their advantage.

I'm sure there are many more, so I'll leave the list in your capable hands and hope that I haven't bored you all with my wall of text.

Cheers

Baaa

I think the name of the list is more terrifying than anything the list could possibly contain

Sounds like the name of a seventies porno flick

I agree with fickle green dice the list will die quite easy the name is better than the list

I'd put engine on E'tahn, then find room for the falcon title, but that's just me.

I've found that the extra maneuverability that E wings get from an engine upgrade is more useful that one more shield, after flying etahn with each multiple times

I know he can (and will at some point) die, but it's not going to be that easy a thing to do. But above all, it's his ability to change a Damage Result to a Critical Damage result for him or his buddies, that makes you want love him, and hug him and cover him in kisses.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but its my understanding that Etahn's ability only applies to allied ships and does not help his own attacks. So then, you're basically using him to make chewie possibly hit harder, but that's it. Doesn't seem worth it unless you're flying more ships, imo...

TL;DR, go with Corran instead of Etahn.

Many thanks for your comments and suggestions, they're much appreciated.

I agree with fickle green dice the list will die quite easy the name is better than the list

Whilst I agree that the list can (and probably will) die; it certainly won't do it easily. Like to share why you think it's an easy kill?

I'd put engine on E'tahn, then find room for the falcon title, but that's just me.

The Title is in there.

I've found that the extra maneuverability that E wings get from an engine upgrade is more useful that one more shield, after flying etahn with each multiple times

Thanks, I'll give both your and SirPickles' suggestion of running with the Engine Upgrade a run out over the weekend.

I know he can (and will at some point) die, but it's not going to be that easy a thing to do. But above all, it's his ability to change a Damage Result to a Critical Damage result for him or his buddies, that makes you want love him, and hug him and cover him in kisses.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but its my understanding that Etahn's ability only applies to allied ships and does not help his own attacks. So then, you're basically using him to make chewie possibly hit harder, but that's it. Doesn't seem worth it unless you're flying more ships, imo...

TL;DR, go with Corran instead of Etahn.

Don't see why it only applies to other ships, Etahn's ability only mentions 'the attacker', it doesn't say that the attacker has to be another ship in your squad, or even another ship in a team mates squad if they're attacking.

Might be wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time

I'd hadn't really thought about Corran, and may give it a whirl.

Cheers

Baaa

E'tahn's ability does indeed work for himself. Target is in his arc (obviously) so the attacker (himself) can change one. Dunno why that causes confusion

Still, his ability is really only useful with more than two ships. It's not worth it with such a small squad, so I'd go with Corran instead if you really want to bring an E-wing

Don't see why it only applies to other ships, Etahn's ability only mentions 'the attacker', it doesn't say that the attacker has to be another ship in your squad, or even another ship in a team mates squad if they're attacking.

Might be wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time

No, you're quite right

So many players miss this little factoid and write E'athn off as a 32 point base support ship. bull. He's a monster that just so happens to support your squad.

Don't see why it only applies to other ships, Etahn's ability only mentions 'the attacker', it doesn't say that the attacker has to be another ship in your squad, or even another ship in a team mates squad if they're attacking.

Might be wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time

No, you're quite right

So many players miss this little factoid and write E'athn off as a 32 point base support ship. bull. He's a monster that just so happens to support your squad.

Well in my defense, I've never actually used Etahn (or any e-wing). I just assumed (wrongly obviously) that the wording for his ability was similar to howlrunner. Next time I'll read the text before I post, but good to know that's not the case!

Don't see why it only applies to other ships, Etahn's ability only mentions 'the attacker', it doesn't say that the attacker has to be another ship in your squad, or even another ship in a team mates squad if they're attacking.

Might be wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time

No, you're quite right

So many players miss this little factoid and write E'athn off as a 32 point base support ship. bull. He's a monster that just so happens to support your squad.

Well in my defense, I've never actually used Etahn (or any e-wing). I just assumed (wrongly obviously) that the wording for his ability was similar to howlrunner. Next time I'll read the text before I post, but good to know that's not the case!

wasn't try to call anyone out in particular

but yes, that is E'athn in a nutshell

The E-wing's an incredibly weird ship with an even weirder distribution of pilot skills/abilities/costs.

Corran is the undisputed favorite because of the double tap lending two ships worth of power to fatties without actually having to plan around having two extra ships/V.I for pilot skill ten.

E'athn is more of the red headed-step child, but the guy has an amazing amount of power packed instead that little ship of his. Unlike his big brother, he is not dependent on FCS to get the most out of his ability he can roll with sensors for some absolutely hilarious action/maneuver efficiency

the knave and black moon pilots were the Siamese still-births of the family

Have to say, I do wonder if the squad wouldn't be better off with Solo. I despise fat turrets of any nature, but if you're going to use lil' E'athn you have to keep him covered from phantoms. The bump in pilot skill is, imo, worth more than a single shield upgrade (you'll get so many of those from R2-D2 that you won't even miss it! No joke, I got 24 points worth of shield upgrades out of that little droid when it came down to E'athn versus Chiraneau & E'athn kicked his ass)

Well in my defense, I've never actually used Etahn (or any e-wing). I just assumed (wrongly obviously) that the wording for his ability was similar to howlrunner. Next time I'll read the text before I post, but good to know that's not the case!

Thanks for the reply, and your honesty, refreshing to see on the interwebs these days.

wasn't try to call anyone out in particular

but yes, that is E'athn in a nutshell

The E-wing's an incredibly weird ship with an even weirder distribution of pilot skills/abilities/costs.

Corran is the undisputed favorite because of the double tap lending two ships worth of power to fatties without actually having to plan around having two extra ships/V.I for pilot skill ten.

E'athn is more of the red headed-step child, but the guy has an amazing amount of power packed instead that little ship of his. Unlike his big brother, he is not dependent on FCS to get the most out of his ability he can roll with sensors for some absolutely hilarious action/maneuver efficiency

the knave and black moon pilots were the Siamese still-births of the family

Have to say, I do wonder if the squad wouldn't be better off with Solo. I despise fat turrets of any nature, but if you're going to use lil' E'athn you have to keep him covered from phantoms. The bump in pilot skill is, imo, worth more than a single shield upgrade (you'll get so many of those from R2-D2 that you won't even miss it! No joke, I got 24 points worth of shield upgrades out of that little droid when it came down to E'athn versus Chiraneau & E'athn kicked his ass)

Thanks for that.

To be honest I'd rather try and stay away from Han. To me it's too easy to build a squad around him. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't take this list to a tournament, but I feel that against casual lists it'll be an interesting flying experience.

I'm definitely going to try the Engine Upgrade this weekend and see how it goes. Looking at what you, Warrior Bungalow and SirPickles have said, I'd be a mug not to.

Cheers

Baaa

I think he would be better in a swarm list just my opinion though

I think he would be better in a swarm list just my opinion though

Thanks.

I played a couple of games today, Corran and Dash against a Double YT list. My opponent targeted Corran from the off and killed him in turn 5. The Engine Upgrade didn't help at all, and R2-D2, although he tried his hardest, couldn't generate enough shields to keep him in the game. I eventually won by 1 hull point.

I also ran this list today and it performed really well against a Decimator and Whisper list. Having tried the Engine Upgrade on Corran with little luck, I stayed with the Shield Upgrade on Etahn. It worked wonders.

Etahn and Chewie made short work of Whisper, and after that it was just a case of chase the big ship around the board.

The plan was going well, until I chose the wrong movement on Etahn and flew him off the board. (Stupid hangover )

Won that one as well after forcing the Decimator into a corner and eventually off the board. He only had 2 Hull points left on it by this stage.

All in all, I like this list. I might try it with Dash instead of Chewie next time, but I liked the Nunb/Katarn combo which I'll lose if I do go with Dash.

Cheers

Baaa