Firspray's guns

By mazz0, in X-Wing

I want to spin my Firepsrays guns around, but I ran into several problems.

1) Where are they? Are the they things at the bottom, or are those the Cannons?

2) If those are the guns, how do they shoot backwards? It looks like the body of the ship would be in the way. Also, do they tilt up and down?

3) If those are the cannons, I still want to know if they tilt up and down, but also where are the guns?

4) The wings/flaps look like they're supposed to spin around, but then what happens to those diagonal supports?

Anyone know? Graohical explanations might work best.

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081015144046/starwars/images/0/0b/SlaveI_egvv.jpg

"Rotating twin blaster cannons" are what the two things at the bottom are called, so presumably they just spin around to point backwards. There's also a "Concealed turret" at the very bottom which can probably also spin around. The cannon is concealed, it's the small hatch about halfway up the ship. If you still have the box (which you should), the hatch is open and it's firing. Probably not an ion cannon on that particular piece of art, possibly an HLC?

The wings are "Stabilizer fins", presumably more useful for atmospheric conditions than outer space. *shrug* And maybe they help with landing?

I'd speculate that the diagonal support struts are such to support the wings for flight, and when the wings rotate into a landing position (as seen in ESB), the diagonal struts unlock into a position more parallel to the horizontal struts, enabling the rotation within the cuffs.

The main guns are those guns at the bottom. They can swivel 360 degrees. I assume they have a mechanism to extend them out further when they shoot backwards so they clear the hull. Though in some depictions they look like they can clear it just by rotating. The cannons are actually concealed in panels junst below the cockpit.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101002211110/starwars/images/f/fa/JangoSlave1cleaned.jpg

This picture has all the neccessary information

If you want to see all the weapons in use here's a link to jango fett's fight with obi-wan. You can see the main guns swivel a bit when boba shoots at obi-wan and then later they use laser cannons in the asteroid belt.

http://youtu.be/4ZDcSKpSK98

Edited by Sternguard777

Looking at pictures of the ship landed and in flight, it looks like less of the fins actually rotate than one would at first assume. It looks like the main support strut and that diagonal brace are fixed in place and the fins rotate around the primary support like an axle. In several pictures it even looks like there is a notch in the fin so that, in the landed position, it fits around the spot where the diagonal strut connects to the primary support.

Hope that helps.

Judging by the Episode II clip, I'd say the swively ones are actually the cannons (which is of course wrong because we all know you can't shoot cannons through your auxiliary arc :P) because...well, look at those explosions. Then in space, he's really firing away with what are actually the cannons.

Also, seismic charges! And the homing missiles, which aren't as cool.

The wings are "Stabilizer fins", presumably more useful for atmospheric conditions than outer space. *shrug* And maybe they help with landing?

Considering this is Star Wars physics we're talking about, I would not be surprised to find them stablizing outerspace-opheric conditions like all the air that the blasters and explosions use to produce sound :P

The wings are "Stabilizer fins", presumably more useful for atmospheric conditions than outer space. *shrug* And maybe they help with landing?

Considering this is Star Wars physics we're talking about, I would not be surprised to find them stablizing outerspace-opheric conditions like all the air that the blasters and explosions use to produce sound :P

I've actually read a really neat explanation that says the pilots have special programs that simulate the sounds that should be present in outer space, to aid in their situational awareness.

As for the explosions from the swively cannons, they're space-grade weapons, so it's a wonder they don't do -more- damage to Kamino's infrastructure (and Obi-Wan's decidedly-less-sturdy body structure.)

Judging by the Episode II clip, I'd say the swively ones are actually the cannons (which is of course wrong because we all know you can't shoot cannons through your auxiliary arc :P) because...well, look at those explosions. Then in space, he's really firing away with what are actually the cannons.

Also, seismic charges! And the homing missiles, which aren't as cool.

The guns he uses in space are Heavy Laser Cannons as told by this card art. http://i.imgur.com/AFErJT7.png

Boba later replaces them with Ion Cannons http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/xwing-miniatures/images/b/bf/Ion_Cannon.png/revision/latest?cb=20130427141931

The wings are "Stabilizer fins", presumably more useful for atmospheric conditions than outer space. *shrug* And maybe they help with landing?

Considering this is Star Wars physics we're talking about, I would not be surprised to find them stablizing outerspace-opheric conditions like all the air that the blasters and explosions use to produce sound :P

I've actually read a really neat explanation that says the pilots have special programs that simulate the sounds that should be present in outer space, to aid in their situational awareness.

As for the explosions from the swively cannons, they're space-grade weapons, so it's a wonder they don't do -more- damage to Kamino's infrastructure (and Obi-Wan's decidedly-less-sturdy body structure.)

Yeah, I'm not sure what happened in that scene

As Redlettermedia described, Jango hit every molecule around the ship except the ship itself.

I know they wanted to paint the badass bounty-hunter as competent and firing like a derp tie-fighter wasn't the way to do it, but either Obi Wan was the **** "use the force" champion on a scale that even Darth Vader would be envious of, or that Jedi fighter has a shield value of infinity.

I literally just noticed that the Ion Cannon card art fires in red o.O Aren't they usually depicted as blue?

The guns at the bottom of the ship are its primary weapon in X-wing terms, and do rotate around, fore-and-aft. If you look carefully at the card art for both Ion and Heavy Laser cannons, you can see that both deploy from pop-open panels on the side of the hull. Other artwork shows the missiles and torpedos also deploying in the same fashion.

Also, Boba and Jango are super irritating in the space scene - way too much dialog, and not one line of it worth the bother of saying.

Also also, it looks like Jango was packing a pair of HLCs, and firing them simultaneously.

Also, Boba and Jango are super irritating in the space scene - way too much dialog, and not one line of it worth the bother of saying.

but who could forget such riveting dialog as

"Get him, dad! Get him!"

and "Yeah~"

Rightyo! Cool as I think it would be to rotate the wings, I don't think I will, for two reasons:

1. Super fiddly

2. Doesn't make sense if they only rotate for landing

As for the guns - nifty, so I can rotate the bottom ones to fire backwards, which makes sense as that's how I use Firesprays :)

I'd lile to stick a HLC or two on as well, but what would I use for that? Also, would it be one, like in the picture posted above, or two, one on both sides, like in that clip? Of course, this makes little sense, as I never put annoys on Firesprays.

I want the missile launchers and bomb bays too, but that's beyond my skills and patience!

I literally just noticed that the Ion Cannon card art fires in red o.O Aren't they usually depicted as blue?

Watch the end of Hoth, the ball gun shoots a big orange blast of sit the "stuff" down.

I literally just noticed that the Ion Cannon card art fires in red o.O Aren't they usually depicted as blue?

Watch the end of Hoth, the ball gun shoots a big orange blast of sit the "stuff" down.

Yeah, the 'blue' ion shots are only from the X-Wing/TIE Fighter PC games.

In the movies, ion shots were orange-ish. At least, from the Rebels (who shot red normally). No idea what Imperial ion shoots looked like, as we never really saw the Empire shoot anything but simple green.

Ion cannons on all the different art on the various cards (Ion cannon, Ion Cannot Turret, Armada Ion Cannons, Raider Ion Cannons) are all orange-red

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Where is says "Rotating Twin Blaster Cannons" that is the primary weapons. Thus making them able to fire in a rear arc as well as the front. Where it says "Ion Cannon Concealed" is where whatever "Cannon" upgrade you have on your's is located. It also shows in this schematic were missiles and torpedoes would be located. Which all make sense as to why they can only be fired out of the front firing arc. Bombs are released from a panel on the back, if the ship is vertical, directly under the engines.

Hope this helps.

'Son, want to come join your father in killing bounties across the galaxy?'

Man, Episode II was stupid.

If you get around to spinning the guns... around... let us know with glorious pics, TC!

Just cut them off feed a piece of wire through the tail, and pin them on. Or cut them off, get some really small rare earth magents, and do a standard magnetizing job.

I've had one apart, there is a lot of plastic through there. I would use magnets for this job, though a drill straight through would allow for pinning it. also they come out easy, I was mucking about one night with the parts separated and (probably form my mucking about) seemed to just pop off. I was looking at it to try and light the engines. I give major props to those who have done it, that's more plastic than I wanna carve out of that ship.

Figure a way to make that hole straight and you should be fine, or use magnets.. If I actually rotate my guns, I think I'll go with the magnets.

No idea what Imperial ion shoots looked like, as we never really saw the Empire shoot anything but simple green.

Simple Green? That explains why all the imperial stuff was nice and clean. Probably smelled nice too.

Hang on, are you guys talking about the guns or the wings? If the guns, you seem to be overcomplicating it somewhat - are you thinking of having them permanently rotatable to any position? I just wanted them backwards, and I did them last night, just cut 'em off and glued 'em on backwards with super-glue (polystyrene cement would have made too much mess). I'll take a picture later, but I think you can probably imagine it.

So it looks like the cannon goes in a different place in every artwork or schematic. Must be a lot of available space.

no doubt each firespray is heavily customized and re-fitted with tools specific to the pilots using them