is damaged cockpit persistant?

By djinfish, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Damaged Cockpit:

After the round in which you receive this card, treat your pilot skill as "0".

Does this effect remain persistant or only during the next round?

I need something to provide a direct ruling rather than people just assuming yes or no.

It is permanent. Otherwise, it would have you flip it face-down or discard it.

It's a matter of grammar, not ruling. "After this round" is persistent. "The round after" could be temporary.

Edited by DagobahDave

....Oh kark, Ive been doing this wrong for years, assuming it was only one round. Figured the pilot just threw some duct tape on the damage and was okay....wow. Glad this was brought up

....Oh kark, Ive been doing this wrong for years, assuming it was only one round. Figured the pilot just threw some duct tape on the damage and was okay....wow. Glad this was brought up

The wording REALLY sounds like it only lasts 1 round, but that isn't really what it says and Dracon is right, if it were temporary there would be something in place that turns the card face down. Really wish they had worded it differently, "Beginning on the first round after you receive this card,..." or something like that.

I was assuming that a face up damage card was always in effect as long as it was still face up. Which is why some have the option to be flipped face down.

Is there anyway we can get an official ruling on this? I just want to be able to reference it to players who play it out wrong. It can take so much enjoyment from the game when you have to create a discussion about this with players who try to flip it face down.

Edited by djinfish

It doesn't say anything about flipping it face-down, so you don't flip it face-down.

"Do what the card says, not what it doesn't."

Core rulebook, page 16, third paragraph under "Critical Damage". It confirms that faceup damage cards have an ongoing effect.

But more importantly, the timing is not ambiguous. "After the round in which you receive this card" is a very clear statement.

Did you receive the card last round? That's "after" the round in which you received it.

Did you receive the card three rounds ago, and it's still faceup? That's still "after" the round in which you received it.

The phrasing is NOT "The round after which you received this card" which could be a one-round duration. It is, very clearly, EVERY round "[a]fter the round in which you receive[d] this card". It's just English grammar, not game rules, that you need to pay attention to here.

Edited by DagobahDave

Yeah, there really isn't a need for a FAQ here. You simply do what the card tells you to do.

Any point in the game after the round in which you get that crit, it is in effect. Unless there is some effect that lets you flip it face down, or some other effect changes the PS of that ship.

I suppose the point is to avoid the problem of having a ships PS change in the middle of combat. If it simply went into effect right away, someone might try to argue that they got a second activation phase. It is worded a bit oddly, but it was trying to avoid that effect.