Cool. That droid can cloak.

shouldn't a cloaking device be first of all hard to get and second of all nearly impossible to fit on an astromech?

is rebels actually any good or is it just really stupid?

the later, the main cast are all mary sue's and the bad guys so pathetic it's sad.

Dude, did you actually watch the show?

The location is a backwater planet with rich resources in the outer rim. It's basically an imperial border world, where one cannot expect that competent people of the military are sent to. Also these two deceased guys acted quite realistically as members of any oppressing force had done in our worlds past: elitist, arrogant, abusive and overconfident of their own capacities.

As for the good guys; they are mostly competent. The Jedi can't barely hold his own against a real force-user, that kid is a default streetwise urchin with not much combat skills to look at (even Stormtroopers are laughing at him), the tank is at times reckless, the droid a sociopath; leaving only the pilot as competent and - yes, finally there is one, all right - that Zeitgeist-posterchild Mandalore-Girl as the only real Mary-Sue of the team.

And they are most of the time on the run from the imperial forces.

Beyond that, really, lots of love went into the slow story progression, references to both the dreadful clone wars era (which must have been horrible to work with during the time of the clone wars series - alltough they wouldn't openly admit it) and the beloved original trilogy.

Right now I can really not find a reason to NOT watch the series at all - as this is the very series we all had hoped to see while suffering through DROIDS, EWOKS, and the Prequel Experiment in the past.

Huh good question but would it really matter? What ever became of the of the Tantive IV after its capture?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tantive_IV

"Vader personally interrogated Captain Raymus Antilles to find the stolen plans with no success. Before Senator Organa was on the row, she had seen the portable accessway attached to the Tantive IV.[5] Unable to find the plans on board the Tantive IV, Darth Vader ordered a team of stormtroopers to sweep the planet below to find them. Afterward, the corvette was destroyed and the entire crew was killed. Imperial propaganda, including a falsified report by the survey vessel Wide-Eyed, would later proclaim that an asteroid storm caused the destruction of the Tantive IV."

Of course, none of this ever happened now

Cool. That droid can cloak.

shouldn't a cloaking device be first of all hard to get and second of all nearly impossible to fit on an astromech?

is rebels actually any good or is it just really stupid?

the later, the main cast are all mary sue's and the bad guys so pathetic it's sad.

Dude, did you actually watch the show?

The location is a backwater planet with rich resources in the outer rim. It's basically an imperial border world, where one cannot expect that competent people of the military are sent to. Also these two deceased guys acted quite realistically as members of any oppressing force had done in our worlds past: elitist, arrogant, abusive and overconfident of their own capacities.

As for the good guys; they are mostly competent. The Jedi can't barely hold his own against a real force-user, that kid is a default streetwise urchin with not much combat skills to look at (even Stormtroopers are laughing at him), the tank is at times reckless, the droid a sociopath; leaving only the pilot as competent and - yes, finally there is one, all right - that Zeitgeist-posterchild Mandalore-Girl as the only real Mary-Sue of the team.

And they are most of the time on the run from the imperial forces.

Beyond that, really, lots of love went into the slow story progression, references to both the dreadful clone wars era (which must have been horrible to work with during the time of the series) and the beloved original trilogy.

Right now I can really not find a reason to NOT watch the series at all - as this is the very series we all had hoped to see while suffering through DROIDS, EWOKS, and the Prequel Experiment in the past.

Yes I watched the first six and got progressively more annoyed at the ****** bag m a in characters and the total non threat that was the Empire.

Storm troopers are not the regular military they are elite shock troops that deploy from ships into trouble spots through out the galaxy, sure they miss in the movies because if they didn't it'd end alot quicker but in the back ground they are not something to dismiss lightly.

Yet in that show they get tossed grenades and just stare at them dumbly or let a big alien on board their ship with out immediately seeing through blatant lies.

When the Empire isn't a threat the heroes can't be the good guys, just bullies picking on the special kids.

Huh good question but would it really matter? What ever became of the of the Tantive IV after its capture?

If not destroyed as nathankc indicates, then I would assume it would continue being used as an official imperial courier ship, just as it had been before.

Storm troopers are not the regular military they are elite shock troops that deploy from ships into trouble spots through out the galaxy, sure they miss in the movies because if they didn't it'd end alot quicker but in the back ground they are not something to dismiss lightly.

I know, but you also have to admit that...

...so far the only troops (as in entire units in action rather then officers here and there or prison guards) that had been depicted as antagonist mooks were the Stormtroopers. In neither official screening were they effective on screen. Rebels just keeps up with that style.

Also, since the recent turn of events in the series I have the notion that they will become more of a threat while the story progresses...

I was trying to just quietly suggest that MacchuWA get a second opinion, instead of defending the show to derail the thread...but...since it looks like we're gonna do this, I guess I'll chime in.

Yes I watched the first six and got progressively more annoyed at the ****** bag m a in characters and the total non threat that was the Empire.

Storm troopers are not the regular military they are elite shock troops that deploy from ships into trouble spots through out the galaxy, sure they miss in the movies because if they didn't it'd end alot quicker but in the back ground they are not something to dismiss lightly.

Yet in that show they get tossed grenades and just stare at them dumbly or let a big alien on board their ship with out immediately seeing through blatant lies.

When the Empire isn't a threat the heroes can't be the good guys, just bullies picking on the special kids.

So they have to miss in the movies so the movies don't end quicker, but they're supposed to hit the characters in a tv show so that it doesn't. How's that make sense?

And it's not like Stormtroopers are pushovers. Yeah, the heroes are good at their job -- they're the main characters of a kid's show, you expect them to trip and shoot themselves? -- but look how often they're running away from Stormtroopers. Look how often they're hoofing it out of there, just temporarily staying one step ahead of the law by (a) being lucky, (b) have their semi-plot-spoiler-so-I-won't-mention-it-directly ace up their sleeve, or © carefully planning out an ambush (which is the way real guerilla fighters work). Look how often they're barely escaping. The Empire is a threat, it's just not an omnipotent threat.

And, god, I hate "Mary Sue." The term has a really pretty specific meaning. Not every fictional character someone doesn't like is a Mary Sue. Are they a talented group? Yeah. Because watching people who're terrible at their jobs is a different genre from the kid's action-adventure show. Was Han Solo a Mary Sue because he could fly really well and handle a blaster? Obi-Wan, because he was good with a lightsaber? Is Princess Leia -- I mean, she's the princess of a whole planet (at least temporarily) -- a Mary Sue? Luke Skywalker's the ultimate Mary Sue, I guess, just some backwater hick but just an hour or two after we meet him, he blows up the Death Star, right? The original trilogy must be really crummy, by that standard.

C'mon. The Rebels crew would totally get punked by any of the main characters from prior source material. They get punked by the opposition pretty regularly (look at how terrified they were of the Inquisitor, and he's not even a real Jedi/Sith!). Complaining that they're overpowered wish fulfillment characters is just silly.

They just play it smart -- like real guerilla fighters -- and hold their own on a simple backwater world that's barely worth Imperial notice. The tension's ratcheted back up (and how) since an actual competent commander showed up, in the last few episodes.

Cool. That droid can cloak.

shouldn't a cloaking device be first of all hard to get and second of all nearly impossible to fit on an astromech?

is rebels actually any good or is it just really stupid?

I'm really digging it. The show is a tad too "kiddy", but has that ineffable "Star Wars feel".

What makes it really work for me is that the main characters know the Empire is evil, know that need to oppose the Empire, and have no idea how to bring it down. The Empire is big, secure, and terrifying. But it's just hit the point of being overconfident and comfortable. Also: stormtrooper accuracy looks to be just about right for actual soldiers under fire in an actual combat situation.

Something interesting about the show: there is no "Alliance" yet, just a bunch of people on various planets that don't like the Empire. This show is about one such group. The fact that we don't know where this group was during episodes 4, 5, and 6 adds a bit of tension- maybe they die helping get the plans for the first Death Star to Leia? Why weren't they at Both base? Etc.

I'd totally recommend watching a few episodes. And ignore the slingshot, it goes away eventually.

And I'm glad we not talking about the actual show too.