Want to try these two lists out and see which is more competitive. Let me know what your thoughts are!

Fett - Engine Upgrades, Ion Cannon, Ion Pulse Missiles, Navigator, Proximity Mines & Veteran Insticts 56

Echo - Advance Cloaking Device, Fire-Control System, Push The Limit & Recon Specialist 42

98 Total.

Or

Echo - Advance Cloaking Device, Advanced Sensors & Veteran Insticts 38

Soontir Fel - Push The Limit, Royal Guard Tie, Stealth Device & Targeting Computer 35

Turr Phennir - Intimidation 27

100 Total.

Hull on Soontir instead of Stealth Device, because green dice.

I'm in the stealth device camp on this argument, because green dice. 1 hull will only ever absorb 1 damage, while having a 4th(5th / 6th) green die can absorb as much as your rolls allow. Yes, your green dice will fail you in some games meaning you lose you stealth device the first time you get shot, but most games it will make you a bigger pain in the butt to kill.

Agreed! Hence why I took it. I will try the Fett and Echo list first. i like the idea of Ioning people and then blasting them with Echo!

I'm in the stealth device camp on this argument, because green dice. 1 hull will only ever absorb 1 damage, while having a 4th(5th / 6th) green die can absorb as much as your rolls allow. Yes, your green dice will fail you in some games meaning you lose you stealth device the first time you get shot, but most games it will make you a bigger pain in the butt to kill.

Having it happen to me more than 3 times now, you don't want over 1/3 of your squadron points to die to two/three hits (Hit+Direct Hit Crit being the most common), when rolling blanks (on 5-6 green dice mind you).

The green dice are cruel allies.

But let us talk about it again when it happens to you?

Having played with Echo a few times now and fought against more than enough, I would always take SD over HU.

You do realise that echo with ptl & advance cloaking won't work right?

Unless you change FCS to advanced sensors.

Ptl for double action & stress. Then green manouvere to clear stress.

Interesting on echo as he has some positional abilities to maybe pull it off but that ps6 will hurt against 7's +.

Yeah, it's just a bit of extra room to move should I need it.

ACD won't kick in if you are stressed. PTL is just not a good idea on a Phantom. Stress kills Phantoms so why would purposely stress yourself? Echo is great when he can de-cloak every turn to pretty much end up anywhere. Without that you might as well run a Sigma with SPA and a Hull upgrade.

Taken PTL off and replaced with VI.

Not that it's a good idea, but I'm pretty sure PTL works on phantoms as long as you trigger it off of the free cloak action when you shoot.