As we now know the three quests in The Treason of Saruman will be The Uruk-hai, Helm’s Deep and The Road to Isengard. What do you think the last three boxes will cover quest wise?

The following makes the most sense to me but I could be forgetting events that are important. Any ideas alternative to what I list below?:

Box 4

-Capturing Gollum and making your way through the Dead Marshes (Frodo's path)

-Through Ithilien and running into Faramir and Co. (Frodo's path)

-The pass of Cirith Ungol and the battle against Shelob (Frodo's path)

Box 5

-The Paths of the Dead (Aragorn's path)

-Siege of Minis Tirith/Battle of Pellenor Fields (Aragorn's path)

-Black Gate (Aragorn's path)

Box 6

Sam's rescue of Frodo in Cirith Ungol and journey through Mordor (Frodo's path)

Cracks of Doom (Frodo's path)

Scouring of the Shire (Frodo's path)

I'm really trying to think of other scenarios that would be different than the ones you listed and I'll admit, I'm at a loss.

Granted, there might be a few differences here and there but each scenario you've listed hit the remaining major story points that I can think of. There are a few others they could do scenarios on though I'm sure they will save them for Fellowship Events.

As for Fellowship Event Quests I can think of:

-Escaping Osgiliath

-Rohan going through the Druadan Forest

That's about all I can think of for the moment! lol

I´m not convinced the scouring of the shire will be it´s own quest. Once the ring of power is destroyed that would be a climactic conclusion to the adventure and I think the designers will opt for that solution...

If the do go the way of the return of Saruman, I´d hope they will also weave departure from middle earth into it.

I think your guesses are very good and surprisingly there only seems to clearly be 3 quests to make from each of the books that capture the main action and don't leave anything out. I wonder if we'll even get any more Fellowship Events to fill out the Sagas at all!

I think the Black Gate, last quest in box 5 will play similar to the The Ring Goes South with a fun quest card representing The Last Debate at the beginning that will later effect the epic final battle of the quest. And also there has to be a Scouring of the Shire but perhaps that will be a Fellowship Event quest if they want the last Saga box itself to end with the Rings destruction.

I also have always envisioned the last quest to be one with split staging areas for Frodo and then Aragorn and co. where everyone fighting at the Black Gate is getting crushed by endless enemies while Frodo is at the same time desperately trying to destroy the Ring. This would be a super tense and climatic end to the Sagas and would also bring together the split paths of Aragorn and Frodo.

I´m not convinced the scouring of the shire will be it´s own quest. Once the ring of power is destroyed that would be a climactic conclusion to the adventure and I think the designers will opt for that solution...

If the do go the way of the return of Saruman, I´d hope they will also weave departure from middle earth into it.

Departure From Middle-earth quest.. sounds great to me! but how would that look like in this game? There certainly couldn't be enemies and theres really only one location... but there still could be a creative way to make a super unique quest from it

Well if they make the last quest a kind-of catch-all quest to tie up all the loose ends then "scouring" and "departure" might be part of the same overall quest.

But who knows they might as well put both into a written epilogue as well.

Remember that we might get extra quests via Gencon or Gamenight. Scouring sounds like one of those.

Or perhaps we will see the Scouring as a Fellowhip event, or GenCon scenario?

It isn't covered in the books - simply alluded to - but Aragorn (along with Legolas, Gimli, the dunedain, and the dead) takes Umbar in order to sail to Minas Tirith during the Battle of Pellennor Fields. This could be a pretty cool quest, and has room for creativity since it wasn't explicitly covered by the books.

That would make an excellent Fellowship event too!

Are you sure that Aragorn's took Umbar? It was the strongest Numenor's castle in Middle earth and it was very far south, and they didn't have much time. Aragorn only defeated their army which was attacking Pelargir and took their ships.

Yeah... They would've had to sail across the entire Bay of Belfalas. That certainly couldn't have happened because they were very pressed on time and the dead weren't with them very long.

Are you sure that Aragorn's took Umbar? It was the strongest Numenor's castle in Middle earth and it was very far south, and they didn't have much time. Aragorn only defeated their army which was attacking Pelargir and took their ships.

Yes, you are correct - I should have said "takes the Umbar fleet." Despite this mistake, storming Pelargir and capturing the fleet of Umbar would still make a pretty awesome scenario.

How about a spirit-sphered Aragorn for Paths of the Dead?

EDIT: Army of the Dead allies that debuff enemies and leave after one round would be cool. Thematically they should only be available if Aragorn is in play, though.

As long as we are bringing up the Paths of the Dead... Here is something that has stuck in my craw from the beginning: Legolas has lower willpower than Gimli. And it mainly annoys me because of that scene.

And that's why Legolas is one of the best Tactics heroes in terms of threat-cost-to-effectiveness value.

As long as we are bringing up the Paths of the Dead... Here is something that has stuck in my craw from the beginning: Legolas has lower willpower than Gimli. And it mainly annoys me because of that scene.

I think it makes sense - following Aragorn into the Paths of the Dead took a supreme amount of willpower from Gimli, who was afraid. Legolas, on the other hand, was not afraid of the dead, and thus following Aragorn was easier for him.

You can't have courage without fear, and you can't demonstrate your will without an obstacle to overcome.

And somehow "willpower" is usually just "questing power" anyway, but that's another discussion. And no argument about Legolas being one of the best tactics heroes, but I always felt he had more "willpower" than Gimli. That's all. It's really a philosophical thing that has little to do with the game.

I cannot imagine Scouring of the Shire being omitted.

There is so much thematic richness that can be transformed into a unique and dynamic scenario. Few ideas that come to mind instantly: questing beyond the gate, rallying the Hobbit-folk, freeing up prisoners, fighting with the ruffians, confrontation with Sharky plus the Grima-drama, and you cannot kill a Hobbit even if they hinder you. There is so much gaming goodness which begs to be converted into quests and encounter cards.

Well I was more or less right with the next saga box as we have been told the three quests comprise of:
"Brave the treacherous, trackless expanses of the Dead Marshes and the dead things that lie within their stagnant mires. Travel into the forests of Ithilien, and lend your strength to an ambush sprung against the forces of Mordor. Find your way through dark and foul-smelling tunnels that lead through Shelob's lair. Then confront the ancient spider at the very edge of Mordor."

also just want to add I agree with Mich the One, I really cannot see FFG omitting the scouring of the shire. Its so important to the story and we have to remember the game is based on the books not the movie. We already have Tom Bombadil and Barrow downs (albeit as fellowship events) so I really think we will get to play the scouring as well whether it is an official saga quest or fellowship event add on.

It's going to be hard to play the next box thematically, especially in multiplayer. The Shelob battle in particular... Faramir's going to be there in my campaign, I just know it.

Only one hero, not the normal three?

Only one hero, not the normal three?

You mean in the saga box or in GS his campaign?

-The saga box has 3 heroes in it. 1 fellowship frodo & 2 unknown ones. (tho Faramir is very likely)

-As for GS his campaign, I think he meant "bring Faramir along" as it is the closest thing to theme play, because there are simply no other heroes around beside frodo & sam in that part of the book.

Of course he could be playing 1 hero only, but that would be kamikaze. So unless he's into kamikaze, I think he wants to be playing 3 heroes, with faramir being one of them.

Here are my guesses as to the upcoming quests' titles:

The Land of Shadow

The Passage of the Marshes

??? (The battle between Rangers & Haradrim takes place in the chapter Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit, but I can't see a quest called that.)

Shelob's Lair

Box 5

The Passing of the Grey Company

The Battle of the Pelennor Fields

The Black Gate Opens

Box 6

The Tower of Cirith Ungol

Mount Doom

The Scouring of the Shire

Only one hero, not the normal three?

You mean in the saga box or in GS his campaign?

-The saga box has 3 heroes in it. 1 fellowship frodo & 2 unknown ones. (tho Faramir is very likely)

-As for GS his campaign, I think he meant "bring Faramir along" as it is the closest thing to theme play, because there are simply no other heroes around beside frodo & sam in that part of the book.

Of course he could be playing 1 hero only, but that would be kamikaze. So unless he's into kamikaze, I think he wants to be playing 3 heroes, with faramir being one of them.