I have 34 points to spend

By nikk whyte, in X-Wing

What's better, in a 5 ship list:

Etahn, FCS

Keyan, stay on target, adv sensors

Ignore what I said before, I misunderstood the question. I'd go with Keyan.

Edited by Engine25

I love Keyan SOT & Adv, Sensors.

Haven't run Etahn yet.

Soontir + PTL + TC + AT + RGT = 34 Points

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This is just me but I would be interested in Keyan with SOT + adv sensors.

However in order to make a better judgement what is the rest of your list. A single ship build does not make a list. It is how that ship is used with the rest of the squadron.

Who knows Etahn might be better for your list.

Edited by Marinealver

I would take Keyan, for sure. I'd underappreciated SoT until I realized it gave a stress, and then realized this was perfect for him. Advanced sensors for TL, pseudo-focus from SoT, boom.

Keyan + SoT + AS is very good. Another option for you is Luke + Lone Wolf + R2-D2.

Keyan + Stay on Target + Advanced Sensors is a blast to play, so that's what I'd go with. Etahn performs more or less like a really expensive X-wing, so it's harder for me to justify the price tag--although if there's a place to put him, it's definitely a 5-ship list.

The other 80% is 2 bandits and 2 rookies. I have flown Keyan well, but he (rightly) gets focused down first.

The idea is to put another ship in there that might last longer, without sacrificing power.

Edited by nikk whyte

And e-wings have all the same ability as b-wings, but don't require the finesse to fly.

What're the other 66 points?

Honestly, one of my favorite rebel lists is ZZZXXB.

The other 80% is 2 bandits and 2 rookies. I have flown Keyan well, but he (rightly) gets focused down first.

The idea is to put another ship in there that might last longer, without sacrificing power.

With 4 other ships Etahn is actually a great choice, that's a lot of extra crits.

The other 80% is 2 bandits and 2 rookies. I have flown Keyan well, but he (rightly) gets focused down first.

The idea is to put another ship in there that might last longer, without sacrificing power.

In a Bandit/Bandit/Rookie/Rookie/Keyan list, Keyan is definitely my first target. What if you distribute those 34 points around a bit, though--like Bandit/Bandit/Rookie/Biggs/Wedge? That's sort of a Wave 4 update of a venerable classic from the very first tournament season.

You could also run something like Bandit/Bandit/Rookie/Tarn+R7/Luke+Lone Wolf.

The other 80% is 2 bandits and 2 rookies. I have flown Keyan well, but he (rightly) gets focused down first.The idea is to put another ship in there that might last longer, without sacrificing power.

In a Bandit/Bandit/Rookie/Rookie/Keyan list, Keyan is definitely my first target. What if you distribute those 34 points around a bit, though--like Bandit/Bandit/Rookie/Biggs/Wedge? That's sort of a Wave 4 update of a venerable classic from the very first tournament season.You could also run something like Bandit/Bandit/Rookie/Tarn+R7/Luke+Lone Wolf.

I do like that combination, but I don't have a transport or 3 x wings. I'm making do with what I have.

Conventional wisdom is "if it ain't broke don't fix it" but I can always go back if something isn't to my liking.

The other 80% is 2 bandits and 2 rookies. I have flown Keyan well, but he (rightly) gets focused down first.The idea is to put another ship in there that might last longer, without sacrificing power.

In a Bandit/Bandit/Rookie/Rookie/Keyan list, Keyan is definitely my first target. What if you distribute those 34 points around a bit, though--like Bandit/Bandit/Rookie/Biggs/Wedge? That's sort of a Wave 4 update of a venerable classic from the very first tournament season.You could also run something like Bandit/Bandit/Rookie/Tarn+R7/Luke+Lone Wolf.

I do like that combination, but I don't have a transport or 3 x wings. I'm making do with what I have.

Conventional wisdom is "if it ain't broke don't fix it" but I can always go back if something isn't to my liking.

Bandit/Bandit/Blue/Biggs/Wedge works at 100 points, too.

Is the e-wing really worse off than the b-wing?

Is the e-wing really worse off than the b-wing?

Well... I used to try to defend the E-wing and TIE defender. I still think the TIE defender is worth running--or at least the PS1 is, and so are the named guys--but it's harder to get behind the E-wing.

The thing is that Corran's ability can be really, really superb. Etahn's ability is good in a crowd. But the E-wing in general offers a B-wing's attack and a B-wing's overall durability (in terms of the number of attacks to kill it), at a fairly substantial premium over a B-wing. It's hard for me to figure out in what situations Knave Squadron is 20-25% more effective than Blue Squadron, and I've sort of given up trying.

I knew the generics didn't stack up, but I could justify losing 2 ps for 2 evade and a squad-wide force multiplier, in the Etahn/Keyan trade off.

The list isn't predicated on pilot skill, and with FCS, Etahn should be matching keyans damage output, export for the off-turns when you shoot a target for the first time.

Keyan is really good though.

I like Etahn in this squad. He's definitely target number 1, but he's also tougher than the others thanks to the higher AGI, particularly if you end up facing lists with lots of 2-dice attacks.

What's better, in a 5 ship list:

Etahn, FCS

Keyan, stay on target, adv sensors

Both have their advantages Keyan is the more consistent damage dealer and Etahn the stronger team player.

Maybe adding control elements into your list might be of use.

Etahn + R3-A2

Keyan + SoT + Ion

Other than that, of the 2 choices you've give for selection I'd pick Etahn. His dial works in easier with the rest of the list if you're starting in a close formation.

I think a Leyland P76 will serve you well. Don't forget the autothrusters!

Defender with an ion cannon of course, despite it being a rebel list ;)

Kagi + Sensor Jammer + Enhanced Scopes + Anti Pursuit Lasers

:P

Defender with an ion cannon of course, despite it being a rebel list ;)

... for 34 points this would be a Defender with the Mango Cannon ... just to cancel the range 3 bonus green.

Tell me, when will you be mine

Tell me, Mango, Mango, Mango

We can share a love divine

Please don't make me wait again

When will you say yes to me?

(When will you say, yes to me?)

Tell me, Mango, Mango, Mango

(Tell me, Mango, Mango, Mango)

You mean happiness to me

(You mean happiness to me)

Oh, my Defender please tell me when

Every rounds's a kill

(Every rounds's a kill)

Every game sweet victory

(Every game sweet victory)

Let me show you the way

(Let me show you the way)

To a destruction beyond compare

I can't wait a moment more

Tell me, Mango, Mango, Mango

(Tell me, Mango, Mango, Mango)

Just say, it's Mango Cannon that you adore

And then Defender, tell me when

Now, every moment's a kill

(Every moment's a kill)

Every game sweet victory

Let me show you the way

(Let me show you the way)

To a destruction beyond compare

I can't wait a moment more

(I can't wait a moment more)

Tell me, Mango, Mango, Mango

Say, it's Mango Cannon that you adore

And then Defender tell me when

Oh, my Defender tell me when

And then Defender tell me when

Oh, my Defender tell me when

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