I never play the same lists twice in a row at the house and try to get others to do so.

Phantom more than anything has funneled this game down the path of "Forcing" people playing rebels to field the fat hans and turrets. There is only one ship that can seriously counter the Phantom other than these turrets, that being E-wing with corran horn, boost, advanced sensors. Very expensive option but only serious option IMO.

Phantom should also have been 3 attack dice period. Its been admitted by the designers but they wont go back to change anything or FAQ it like they said on the Scum and Villany podcast interview.

And lastly on the Phantom ***** list is the Autocloak after attack, also unbalancing and "Forcing" rebels into choosing turrets/fat hans or simply die.

One other issue I see is when the game is balanced just for tournament play, then regular house play does suffer. Example... Fat Han may be super annoying as time runs out in tournament play but there is PLENTY of time to kill him at my house. How many games are casual house games versus the tournament play? Uhm... 99.99% of them. FFG please balance the game for house play not tournament play.

I never play the same lists twice in a row at the house and try to get others to do so.

Phantom more than anything has funneled this game down the path of "Forcing" people playing rebels to field the fat hans and turrets. There is only one ship that can seriously counter the Phantom other than these turrets, that being E-wing with corran horn.

Phantom should also have been 3 attack dice period. Its been admitted by the designers but they wont go back to change anything or FAQ it like they said on the Scum and Villany podcast interview.

And lastly on the Phantom ***** list is the Autocloak after attack, also unbalancing and "Forcing" rebels into choosing turrets/fat hans or simply die.

One other issue I see is when the game is balanced just for tournament play, then regular house play does suffer. Example... Fat Han may be super annoying as time runs out in tournament play but there is PLENTY of time to kill him at my house. How many games are casual house games versus the tournament play? Uhm... 99.99% of them. FFG please balance the game for house play not tournament play.

I REALLY wish people would stop saying they admitted it. That was never said, thats just an interpretation some have. Just stop.

OK...I meant AGAINST the same list.

That's different of course. But I think my answer would be close to the same. 2-3 time in a row before I get bored of it.

Although I would say that playing a Dash & Corran list, followed by a Han & Corran list then a Decimator & Whisper list would count as 3 times in a row.

There is only one ship that can seriously counter the Phantom other than these turrets

That is simply untrue, a lot of people beat Phantom lists with stuff other than Large Turrets or Corran.

Its been admitted by the designers but they wont go back to change anything or FAQ it like they said on the Scum and Villany podcast interview.

Again that is simply untrue. They never said that, they said that if the 4 dice proved to be a problem they couldn't or wouldn't simply fix it via a FAQ or Errata. That is not at all the same thing as admitting it was a mistake. It was simply an example.

FFG please balance the game for house play not tournament play.

There is no reason to do one or the other.

The competitive game is still competitive and varied but just a little bit dull at the moment. S&V should shake it up. If it doesn't I can see my local non-official tournaments introducing bans on certain cards such as C3P0 & the outrider.

My advice to people who are suffering from this meta is to get a group of players together who you like playing (this is very important) and then have a frank discussion about the state of the game, why you may or may not be having fun etc. Then come up with a list of rules for your group to maybe make the game more enjoyable. Maybe you want people to change up their list every 3 games or so, to avoid facing the same thing over and over again, or maybe you want to ban, or heavily discourage, the use of certain ships. For example, I don't use my falcon unless I know my opponent is bringing his A game as well.

Yawn... when I wake up I am going to play X-Wing and have fun... far, far away from any crap-gamer-people.

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that is a dog not you're waifu~

If the OP is not having fun, then they're not having fun. I'm not sure if that's the design per se, or just having played a lot of game. Either way, I'm sorry you're feeling like that. :/

Something I'd suggest to change things up a bit: try doing some of the missions. They're different from the standard dogfight, and that may make things fresh enough to be interesting.

Yawn... when I wake up I am going to play X-Wing and have fun... far, far away from any crap-gamer-people.

People inclined to pass judgment like yourself make me feel like hunting. I could really go for a nice wolf pelt, come to think of it.

Yawn... when I wake up I am going to play X-Wing and have fun... far, far away from any crap-gamer-people.

People inclined to pass judgment like yourself make me feel like hunting. I could really go for a nice wolf pelt, come to think of it.

Kill Yourself Already... and take the rest of the forum trolls with you!

FYAETLLY!

Yawn... when I wake up I am going to play X-Wing and have fun... far, far away from any crap-gamer-people.

People inclined to pass judgment like yourself make me feel like hunting. I could really go for a nice wolf pelt, come to think of it.

Kill Yourself Already... and take the rest of the forum trolls with you!

FYAETLLY!

Now that was uncalled for....

Yawn... when I wake up I am going to play X-Wing and have fun... far, far away from any crap-gamer-people.

People inclined to pass judgment like yourself make me feel like hunting. I could really go for a nice wolf pelt, come to think of it.

Kill Yourself Already... and take the rest of the forum trolls with you!

FYAETLLY!

Now that was uncalled for....

True... what is really called for here with these tiny internet monsters is is a good ole visitation from Jay & Bob!

A nice long visit; all clock work orange now... oh my X-Wing Brothers!

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This is a new low.

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This is a new low.

With a cute little GOSSIP AVATAR... Toot-toot!

oh my god this is precious

pretty sure it won't get any funnier, though

Who indeed would bear the proud man's contumely, when he himself might his quietus make with a bare bodkin?

Yawn... I Might get up and fix a nice steak and mess around in my game room with all of my cool toys and so forth and such.

Kinda what you do when you have a life and $$$ and that sort of thing.

I'm posting on the X-wing forums because I clearly have a life.

Could have fooled me.

Also I was wrong, it did get funnier, holy ****snacks.

Yawn... I Might get up and fix a nice steak and mess around in my game room with all of my cool toys and so forth and such.

Kinda what you do when you have a life and $$$ and that sort of thing.

Dude, you are being a ******. Knock it off eh?

Yawn... I Might get up and fix a nice steak and mess around in my game room with all of my cool toys and so forth and such.

Kinda what you do when you have a life and $$$ and that sort of thing.

Dude, you are being a ******. Knock it off eh?

But he's using smilies that totes makes it okay

Yawn... I Might get up and fix a nice steak and mess around in my game room with all of my cool toys and so forth and such.

Kinda what you do when you have a life and $$$ and that sort of thing.

Dude, you are being a ******. Knock it off eh?

But he's using smilies that totes makes it okay

I am >< close to snapping at his disingenuous emote spam.

Ladies and gents: if you see something objectionable, report it and move on. Piling on is fun, but when someone really steps over the line, responding to it just gives the mods more garbage to clean up when they arrive on the scene.

Ladies and gents: if you see something objectionable, report it and move on. Piling on is fun, but when someone really steps over the line, responding to it just gives the mods more garbage to clean up when they arrive on the scene.

Report and circle is just so much more interesting though~

Besides, don't they usually just lock threads? I can't remember the last time I saw a post get full-on deleted.

I've been playing since wave 1. I still buy the models but no longer play regularly. Now about 2 games a year, a game with friends at a convention.

Take what you will from that.