I just remember another manga moment of the prequels:

Anakin: My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count.

Count Dooku: Good, Twice the pride, double the fall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cmwTrTMqCo

Oh yes! I wanted to disappear when I heard that in the cinema.

Another thing vegeta and Anakin have in common: Don't mess with his girl.

I don't like the prequels, but if you do then good for you.

I don't know why we come down on people for finding joy in things.

Criticizing a film isn't criticizing the people who like it. Just like criticizing a belief isn't criticizing the believer. It's true that the person who is critical of something has a responsibility to not make it personal by adding ad hominem attacks into their discourse however unless they are, the person who likes or believes something and is upset by another's criticism has only themselves to blame for feeling that way.

I don't know why we come down on people for finding joy in things.

It's X-Box vs Playstation fanboy-ism. People, afraid of backing the wrong horse, tear into the other faction to make themselves feel better, to reassure themselves that they made The Correct Choice.

I don't know why we come down on people for finding joy in things.

It's X-Box vs Playstation fanboy-ism. People, afraid of backing the wrong horse, tear into the other faction to make themselves feel better, to reassure themselves that they made The Correct Choice.

In this case though if you like the Prequels you have made The Wrong Choice and are now regulated to the Loser Crowd . Sorry, you should have chosen better.

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Edit all you want, but you can never bury the shame that Brad dragged out into the light. Bwahahahahahah!

Edit all you want, but you can never bury the shame that Brad dragged out into the light. Bwahahahahahah!

Unless I were to edit my post and then you would look like the one who is looney tunes.

I don't know why we come down on people for finding joy in things.

It's X-Box vs Playstation fanboy-ism. People, afraid of backing the wrong horse, tear into the other faction to make themselves feel better, to reassure themselves that they made The Correct Choice.

I don't think that's fair. A lot of people genuinely felt badly let down by the PT. Right or wrong, I don't think it's a tribal thing. Maybe there's an element of solidarity in it for these people - a level of positive reinforcement when others agree, but I think at its root it's not a Us. vs. Them thing.

The thing that irks me about midichlorians (aside from badly stealing from biology) is that a only a few seconds taking blood test could be used to identify potential or actual Force users. A mandatory test when entering high school (or your countries equivalent) and the Empire can easily spot the children of hidden Jedis, potential new recruits for the Inquisitors, and don't get me started on how easy it makes to find Jedis on the run.

As others pointed out the tests that would be made to transfer those midichlorians from a captured Jedi to a more 'loyal' person. Very darl stuff.

Isn't Mark Hamill an extremely successful voice actor now? Personally I think that's worth something.

No one will ever be the Joker in my mind more than Hamill.

The only person that I think could give Hamill a run for his money as the Joker would have been Heath Ledger's take on the character. Real shame about Ledger's passing, as I really enjoyed seeing him in pretty any movie he was a part of.

The thing that irks me about midichlorians (aside from badly stealing from biology) is that a only a few seconds taking blood test could be used to identify potential or actual Force users. A mandatory test when entering high school (or your countries equivalent) and the Empire can easily spot the children of hidden Jedis, potential new recruits for the Inquisitors, and don't get me started on how easy it makes to find Jedis on the run.

As others pointed out the tests that would be made to transfer those midichlorians from a captured Jedi to a more 'loyal' person. Very darl stuff.

Sure, sounds easy on paper but you are forgetting about politics. There is a misunderstanding, I think, that the Empire pretty much runs rampant and does whatever it wants. But as mentioned in EP III, the Emperor can't yet dissolve the Senate because he has to maintain control. Which takes him ~20 years to do when the Senate is finally dissolved by EP IV.

I think mandating a blood test is perfectly in line with what the Empire has been shown to be able to do.

Also, why wouldn't the Jedi do the blood doping thing where they enrich the concentration of their red blood cells? Remember, they are like mitochondria, why not use your own blood. I don't want to imagine the Jedi having regular blood transfusions so they can lift heavy objects better, that's the headspace I reserve for athletes.

Let's face it, George probably asked some sciencey intern to figure out a way to explain what he put in the script. I think the script said "Qui-Gon is probing lil Ani and finds out he's the chosen one." George could probably not be bothered to think about it any deeper than that. Why should I care more than he did?

You could even make more jedi by pumping average people full of midi-chlorian rich blood.

If you use to much jedi blood doping you'll get 'cholrian rage!

I like the idea that the midi-chlorian theory is sort of a fringe science held up by only a few Jedi, Qui-Gon Jinn being one of them. They can show the existence of midis. They can show a correlation between the midi count and strength in the Force. However, they cannot really say for sure if the Force is a result of the midis, or if the midis are a result of the Force, ie. simply microscopic critters attracted to those who are Force-strong.

Someone early on in this thread suggested it's a perception of cause and effect. Which is the cause, and which is the effect? There is overwhelming support (in my Star Wars anyway) that the Force is mystically based and not midi-chlorianically based. The Jedi that all sit on the High Council are traditionalists. They balk at the midi-chlorian theory, but are not so closed minded to not listen to those in the midi camp. Obi Wan, despite being a student of Qui Gon's, does not believe in the midi-chlorian theory .

When Qui-Gon stands before the Council and tells them how Anikin is so packed up good with midi-chlorians, the Jedi on the Council kind of look around at each other, and I can hear them thinking, "ohhh... the midi-chlorian stuff again... c'mon Qui-Gon..."

Perhaps the reason Qui-Gon doesn't sit on the High Council is not simply because he's kind of a do-your-own-thing Jedi, a "gray Jedi" if you like, but because also he's one of the ones who support the non-traditional midi-chlorian theory.

After reading many insightful comments on this thread from both sides, that's my take on it. And that's how I'm accepting the midi-chlorian deal in my game.

Jedi council: "Oh master qui-gon, you and your odd ideas! Tiny creatures living inside us giving us "the force". Now really."

Qui-gon: "But..."

Jedi council: " And that other stuff! A boy prophesised to bring balance to the force?"

Mace Windu: "Hold. I actually like that one."

Council: "fine. But then there is this other stuff! Sith this, seperatist that!"

Qui-gon" But..."

Council: "And Chancelour Palpatine is suposed to be Darth Sidious! Preposterous!"

Qui-gon " Really? You can't see trough that disguise?"

Yoda: "Clouded by the dark side-"

Mace: "Here he goes again!"

Council: "Don't start all that again! Palpatine can't possibly be Darth Sidious! Palpatine doesn't even ware a hood!"

Council: "Don't start all that again! Palpatine can't possibly be Darth Sidious! Palpatine doesn't even ware a hood!"

(picture of the Mystery Men from movie of the same name)

You are The Shoveller and I claim my prize!

Jedi council: "Oh master qui-gon, you and your odd ideas! Tiny creatures living inside us giving us "the force". Now really."

Qui-gon: "But..."

Jedi council: " And that other stuff! A boy prophesised to bring balance to the force?"

Mace Windu: "Hold. I actually like that one."

Council: "fine. But then there is this other stuff! Sith this, seperatist that!"

Qui-gon" But..."

Council: "And Chancelour Palpatine is suposed to be Darth Sidious! Preposterous!"

Qui-gon " Really? You can't see trough that disguise?"

Yoda: "Clouded by the dark side-"

Mace: "Here he goes again!"

Council: "Don't start all that again! Palpatine can't possibly be Darth Sidious! Palpatine doesn't even ware a hood!"

If we learned anything from Superman, all he really needed to do was put on a pair of glasses. It's the most foolproof disguise in the universe!

Speaking of superman... I wan't DC comics to do a story in wich something is afecting superman's eyesight and he has to wear glassess (and he can't use contacts for some reason).

Metropolis citizen: "Look! up in the sky!"

Man: "It's a bird!"

Woman: "We're not doing that old bit again! It's Superman!"

Jimmy Olsen: "No! That's Clark Kent!"

Perry White: "Clark! What are you doing dessed up as superman? And how come you can fly?"

Superman: *Facepalm*

In regards to Superman, there's been a few issues of DC Comics where they elaborate upon the "just put on a pair of glasses." A member of the Justice League suggests they do just that (put on glasses and change clothes) since it works so well for Superman. Batman then points out there's a number of other elements that comprise the Clark Kent disguise, such as changing posture (Supes stands tall, Clark slouches), tone of voice, that Clark's clothes are a couple sizes too big to make him look pudgy.

Frankly, it wasn't until Christopher Reeve brought the role to life on the big screen that anyone really started taking the "Clark Kent, Mild-Mannered Report" disguise seriously. The difference between Clark and Superman is as different as night and day, and was made very clear in one scene in the first movie where he's about to reveal himself, and you can literally see the change between the two identities just from the way Reeves changes his posture and tone of voice.

You are right.

Still a better disguise than He-Man/ Prince Adam.

Teela: "He-man! Why are you wearing purple tights?"

Adam: "He-man? No no. I'm prince Adam!"

Teela: "Seriously?"

Faker: "Behold. I. am. He. Man."

Teela: You have blue skin! He-man does not have blue skin!"

Faker: "Ske. Le. Tor. help. Me!"

At least the old minicomics and 200x series fixed that problem.

Frankly, it wasn't until Christopher Reeve brought the role to life on the big screen that anyone really started taking the "Clark Kent, Mild-Mannered Report" disguise seriously. The difference between Clark and Superman is as different as night and day, and was made very clear in one scene in the first movie where he's about to reveal himself, and you can literally see the change between the two identities just from the way Reeves changes his posture and tone of voice.

Christopher Reeve was the best, most believable, Superman. Only an actor like him could really pull off that duality, at least no one else has so far. It's to bad the film is so dated with it FX because kids these days will never get that, it's hard to describe, that super feeling you got when Superman did his reveal in that film (Can't find a good clip of this on youtube but the one below shows what DM & I mean about his acting)).

Just rewatch the old but still good Lois & Clark: The new adventures of Superman. Posture, haircut, make-up, voice, ... Dean Cain did a superb job.

Back to Midichlorians:

The Emperor was no idiot, he used other Force users regularly to circumvent the rule of two.

His Inquisitors, his Right Hands, ...

Considering the regular contact between different species' and the arising medical issues the mentioned mandatory blood tests would be done regularly on various planets/locales. Just another parameter for those programs to run.

Hello, that kid/family has interesting readings .. let's send someone over for a closer look.

Just rewatch the old but still good Lois & Clark: The new adventures of Superman. Posture, haircut, make-up, voice, ... Dean Cain did a superb job.

Back to Midichlorians:

The Emperor was no idiot, he used other Force users regularly to circumvent the rule of two.

His Inquisitors, his Right Hands, ...

Considering the regular contact between different species' and the arising medical issues the mentioned mandatory blood tests would be done regularly on various planets/locales. Just another parameter for those programs to run.

Hello, that kid/family has interesting readings .. let's send someone over for a closer look.

A very good point. While it was not mentioned in Rebels, I wonder if that is one of the ways recruits are sorted out after they are selected for that Special Program at the Imperial Academy.

There is also the bit that Force potential, i.e. midichlorians, is only just that: potential. Without Jedi/Sith training someone who is Force Sensitive just has better instincts/reflexes/insight than someone who is not Force Sensitive. With the success of Order 66 and convincing the citizens of the galaxy that the Jedi were traitors, Sidious really has nothing to worry about from Force Sensitives. The Dark Horse comics illustrate this well. So instituting mandatory Force Sensitivity tests is not only superfluous but also goes against what the Sith teach. The Sith are not very good at sharing power. They are very good at manipulating others to do their work for them. Its also assumed that Vader and Sidious still adhere to the Rule of Two, so either one taking an apprentice or training Force Sensitives would be a no no. The Rule of Two never states that you can't have Force Sensitive subordinates, just that there can only ever be 2 Sith.

All that said, I wouldn't put it past a particularly ambitious Inquisitor to take an apprentice.

Also, Maul is still supposedly out there somewhere...