Hello.

There are some cards which replace claim effects, allowing you to choose and discard a card from opponent's hand. For istance, Spidercraft

http://www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/GoTCards.html/_/secrets-of-oldtown/the-isle-of-ravens/spidercraft-tior

or Reek (from A House of Thorns):

"If you win a challenge in which Reek attacked alone, instead of the normal claim effects, look at the losing opponent's hand and choose and discard a card from this player's hand"

Do these cards works with the plots "Scouting the Pass" or "Breaking and Entering", from Five Kings?

They say:

Scouting the Pass: "Any character cards that would be discarded from an opponent's hand as part of the claim of an intrigue challenge may be put into play by the winner of the challenge, under his or her control".

Breaking and Entering: "Any attachment or location cards that would be discarded from an opponent's hand as part of the claim of an intrigue challenge may be put into play by the winner of the challenge, under his or her control".

I cannot understand if the condition of the plots ("as part of the claim of an intrigue challenge") is invalidated by the "instead of the normal claim" part. Choosing and discarding a card from the opponent's hand is stil the claim of an intrigue challenge (game mechanic), or is something else (a static effect, for example)?

Thank you.

When you use one of these claim replacement effects, you are changing the way the claim resolves. You are not changing the fact that claim for that challenge resolves.

The best illustration of this is Pyat Pree. "If you win a challenge in which Pyat Pree attacked alone,instead of the normal claim effects,choose and kill a character controlled by the losing opponent." If you happen to win an INT challenge with him, then a character controlled by the losing opponent dies for INT claim.

For things like Scouting the Pass and Breaking and Entering, you effective ask yourself; 1) Is the right kind of card being discarded from an opponent's hand?; 2) Is it being discarded because a claim effect is resolving?; and 3) Is it an INT challenge? If the answer to all three are "yes," the plot applies.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that claim replacement effect make the answer to #2, "No." It is still the claim effect that is resolving, not the card effect. The card effect only changes what happens when claim resolves -- not the fact that you need to win the challenge and resolve the claim effect for it to happen.