So the clone troopers were genetically modified to age faster...would this mean that the majority of them (who survived the Clone Wars) would have died of natural causes by the time of A New Hope?

I like to think so. give reason to my argument not all storm troopers we're clones

Dave Filoni answers this:
http://www.hitfix.com/news/dave-filoni-on-star-wars-rebels-place-in-the-timeline

"The Clones are all working the docks. They're all old men. Some of them are very bitter. Some of them feel terrible about what happened. It's tough being a clone..."

Yeah, that is the logical conclusion. Even in TCW you had 99, an "old" clone based on the Fett genome.

Yeah, that is the logical conclusion. Even in TCW you had 99, an "old" clone based on the Fett genome.

99's a bit more ambiguous, given his nature as a "defect," but there's definitely the sense that he's older than most of the clones.

I assumed that since the clones were supposedly more obedient, they were all on board the Death Star when that mass-murdering lunatic Skywalker blew it up.

As far as I've understood is that cloning was banned but the imperials still did it but not on the mass like when the Republic needed them, and filled most roles with normal humans. Keeping the stormtroopers for the remaining clones, that's what I get from reading the wiki and books.

I assumed that since the clones were supposedly more obedient, they were all on board the Death Star when that mass-murdering lunatic Skywalker blew it up.

OK, that wipes out one army of them. What about the other several hundred armies?

As far as I've understood is that cloning was banned but the imperials still did it but not on the mass like when the Republic needed them, and filled most roles with normal humans. Keeping the stormtroopers for the remaining clones, that's what I get from reading the wiki and books.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Clone_trooper/Canon

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper/Canon

This is the official story. They stopped making Clones after the Clone Wars, the Clones eventually began to degenerate, and they were replaced by normal human volunteers & conscripts.

I think the fast aging puts surviving clones in their early to mid 60's when A New Hope would be beginning. By Return of the Jedi a couple years later, they'd be 70-ish.

So the clone troopers were genetically modified to age faster...would this mean that the majority of them (who survived the Clone Wars) would have died of natural causes by the time of A New Hope?

More than likely.

There's also been word from Story Team that by the time of the Rebels TV series, the clone troopers have been shunted out of active duty due to their age, and been given either desk jobs or menial tasks as a result. The only possible place you might see Clone Troopers is the 501st Legion (aka Vader's Fist), as he seems to have a bit of trouble letting the past go. At the very least, the 501st stormtroopers would be extremely competent; they were the guys that in EU/Legends handling the storming of the Tantive IV in ANH.

I would say the bulk of the clone troopers would have died of natural causes. If your story demanded it, I could also see a crack team that has been given all sorts of medical/cybernetic treatment to fight off the advanced aging.

In the now-defunct Karen Traviss Republic/Imperial Commando series, Kal Skirata was hard at work trying to find and disseminate an anti-aging serum for clones. After the series was halted, Traviss put out a release on her site about how he series would have continued. Part of that was the culmination and success of Skirata's efforts. If you need or want a clone character, it's all too easy to toss in a reference to Skirata.

You could easily have a clone from the end of the war who was around 60 at the 0BBY mark. Would make an excellent storm trooper high colonel or Imperial general, if one were looking for a distinctive nemesis.

I just think this thread is just a tribute to the fact that uncle George made a mess of things before he left. midicloreans and all the republic army being made of clone soldiers. we're still confused by it and I hope that jj Abrams and the rebels TV show helps. im glad for that word from filoni

I think the fast aging puts surviving clones in their early to mid 60's when A New Hope would be beginning. By Return of the Jedi a couple years later, they'd be 70-ish.

I agree with this math. They are in their effective 60's in the EotE setting even with double aging. Those saying they would have all died from natural causes are putting a pretty low upper limit on average human lifespan in the Star Wars universe. Ben must have been an oddity to have lived so long? Luke Skywalker in Episode VII at 63 should be knocking on death's door? Han Solo at 72 should be studied by science for such a long lifespan!

In an old campaign my PC's put out a request to hire some mercs. One of them that showed up was around 65 years old but in excellent shape for a geezer, had several scars, and something seemed familiar about his face....

If you want some more recent clones, there is nothing against that. Tho "Clone era" clones would likely rare, and have accelerated again

It seems to me Funny now that a new game came out after the "Pre-quals" a lot more players want to be clone war veterans. Before the Prequals I thought "the clone wars" was something related to body doubles and only the Jedi could sense the duplicates and fight them

My player Character does play a 'young' Clone. However he was an experimental clone so I guess its not beyond the possibility that he was aged up and then they slowed his aging process down again. Could be a source of resentment from any left over clones.

After Attack of the Clones was released and subsequently the Revised Star Wars Edition was released I was one of a small number who played Clone Troopers in a game run at Dragonmeet.

Its possible I was the only one who willingly asked for such a character whilst the person running that game ran out of Jedi figures to serve as miniatures (actually toys if you're asking), I didn't care for the Jedi which could be blamed on those movies where I'm concerned... well that and every time I heard of a Star Wars game being run it was Jedi this and Sith that they just couldn't do them justice as far as I was concerned.

The guy running it wouldn't let me wide angles stun the Sith well and the Jedi surrounding him!

Would like to see something detailing what Clone Troopers were like during and after the Clone Wars, not so keen on the accelerated aging but as long as no one minds including that bit about Skirata finding a cure...

Is it just me or does it feel like the tech has degenerated since the Prequels?

Maybe its just the Empire hogging the decent stuff but have they even mentioned what happened to the original cloning facilities on that water world?

I just think this thread is just a tribute to the fact that uncle George made a mess of things before he left. midicloreans and all the republic army being made of clone soldiers. we're still confused by it and I hope that jj Abrams and the rebels TV show helps. im glad for that word from filoni

Midichlorians are wrong for all sorts of reasons (can't stand them and their reduction of the Force to being something a privileged few are gifted genetically), but continuity isn't one of the problems. There's no reason Yoda should have brought it up to Luke or Obi Wan should. Indeed, banging on about how he inherited strong Force abilities from his father could just provoke dangerous questions.

I think TCW did a fine job of cleaning up any possible problems from the fact that they are clones.

I never saw Midichlorians as being something you HAD to have a certain number of, just that the number of them in you determine how easy it is and how much raw power you had. If you were Yoda or Anakin, you had it really easy, but if you were Joe Shmo, you had to work really hard to become a Jedi and even then, you may not be disciplined enough to harness the force.

I find it even more absurd that the Jedi would sit around for millennia and not say "You know...maybe we should look into what makes us able to channel the Force." and even if they didn't, some scientist would have looked into it themselves. They're not some closed minded religion, only when it comes to training and admitting they were wrong does that become apparent.

All makes perfect sense to me.

I don't have an issue with midichlorians. After all, Qui-Gon never said they were the source of the Force, simply a means by which a person can interact with the Force. So the Force is still the mystical energy field that Obi-Wan described it as, just now there's a guideline by which a person is able to connect to that mystical energy field, much as there's a reason that some people are born with blue eyes while others have brown eyes.

And it'd be a useful measuring stick to see if a person is worth recruiting into the Jedi Order; by the time of the prequels, the Jedi Order probably has a minimum midichlorian count that a person needs to met in order to be considered a viable candidate, otherwise that person would simply be too weak in the Force to make a suitable Jedi Knight. Which could be seen as one of the many flaws the Jedi Order had by that point that feed their sense of elitism that ultimately lead to their downfall.

The book Tarkin answers this officially. Even 10 years BBY most of them had died of old age. With a few exceptions all the Stormtroopers are regular human recruits. Vader's personal guard, the 501st, has a couple of clones, but they're specifically mentioned as being very unusual. So no more cloning, no more clones, likely all are completely gone by the Battle of Yavin.

The book Tarkin answers this officially. Even 10 years BBY most of them had died of old age. With a few exceptions all the Stormtroopers are regular human recruits. Vader's personal guard, the 501st, has a couple of clones, but they're specifically mentioned as being very unusual. So no more cloning, no more clones, likely all are completely gone by the Battle of Yavin.

I also want to add to this that if there was cloning still going on to fill the of ranks of the Empire. It probably was done with a number of diverse sources. Instead of cloning a single Gene set they probably have a collection of various sets of donors. That would enable them to preform a type of selective breading ( I can't think of a better term at the moment) with the various Gene Pools. Searching for the best trait combinations. A process that would be probably done in secret and with limited numbers.

Before the Prequals I thought "the clone wars" was something related to body doubles and only the Jedi could sense the duplicates and fight them

Wasn't it a Zahn book where the clone wars was cloned Jedi? (I never got around to reading the books, but my friends back in the day had talked about it.) I really wanted to see one of the movies end with Ben Kenobi fighting clone O-B1. Two men enter, one man leaves and you don't know which one lived until the next movie.

The book Tarkin answers this officially. Even 10 years BBY most of them had died of old age.

Good to know they actually cleared this up. Do they state why the Empire doesn't just make more?