Clone Wars Starter

By megamen, in Star Wars: Armada

I know this is incredibly premature, but I hope in some point in the future we see the clone wars factions represented in game, as a new starter. (I may not have loved the movies as much as the OT, there were way more cool battles in the cartoon)

What are your thoughts?

(This is assuming FFG has rights to the prequels, or even the new movies)

FFG seems content to leaving their Star Wars games based in the original trilogy time frame. Granted, I don't play their card game, but the RPG, X-Wing, Imperial Assault, and now Armada have all stayed in that era.

Way, WAY down the line (like....3+ years minimum) it would be quite cool.

But i don't see it happening. As the above poster says, FFG either doesn't like (understandably) the prequels, or doesn't hold a licence for them.

Card game as well.

I honestly don't have a problem with the designs from the prequels and clone wars era. It would be odd to me to mix eras, but as a companion game I would play it.

My initial reaction is to say I'm not a fan, but on retrospect, there are some really cool ships and characters that could fit into the game. They seem to keep things in the same period of galactic history, maybe for consistency reasons. I mean, a VSD could crush one of those Old Republic cruisers toe to toe. Plus you'd need two whole new factions, Old Republic and Seperatists. How would a fit against Seperatists and Rebels play out? Does it even make sense?

Well, the CIS (Separatists) Would have a reason to fight Rebels as the Rebels want to restore the Republic, and any Holdouts wouldn't want to associate with the Alliance.

But I am of a mind that is Clone wars is done it should be done as either a separate game (unlikely) or as an expansion packs with older ships for the Empire and CIS ships for Rebels (or the CIS as a third faction)

I am still a little confused about setting Armada in the OT. It doesn't strike me as a good setting for Fleet battles. Maybe this is why we don't many ships for a fleet to make it more plausible for the OT.

Way, WAY down the line (like....3+ years minimum) it would be quite cool.

But i don't see it happening. As the above poster says, FFG either doesn't like (understandably) the prequels, or doesn't hold a licence for them.

Given the number of PT ships which appear in the RPG I seriously doubt it is a licensing issue.

I think we would see CIS or Hapes as third faction before such thing as Clone Wars. Assuming that FFG actually do new SW ships Hapan faction can be really a thing.

Well seeing how the Empire inherited a lot of those old ships. I would hope we see then eventually but at the same time I hope we see some more EU ships Because ever since i saw a picture of it I have wanted to run a Praetor II :)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Praetor_Mark_II-class_battlecruiser

I think we would see CIS or Hapes as third faction before such thing as Clone Wars. Assuming that FFG actually do new SW ships Hapan faction can be really a thing.

Hapes would be a fantastic third faction. I'm encouraged that so far the EU is alive and well in X-Wing and Armada given that Disney and Lucasfilm are essentially casting it aside for the new movies.

I've said this many times and will say again. I'm all for doing a clone wars ear expansion...it had many ships to draw from...I know it's not likely but I can dream.

I think they will continue to stick to the OT but its a shame. The clone wars have a huge amount of content for them to tap into and they could easily knock out a few waves of X-Wing content from that, a few waves of Armada, and a ton of cool stuff in the Imperial Assault game. Not too sure how they should resolve the issue of the two eras interacting, but I think they could come up with something reasonable.

I think they will continue to stick to the OT but its a shame. The clone wars have a huge amount of content for them to tap into and they could easily knock out a few waves of X-Wing content from that, a few waves of Armada, and a ton of cool stuff in the Imperial Assault game. Not too sure how they should resolve the issue of the two eras interacting, but I think they could come up with something reasonable.

In Imperial assault they have side missions that have a "date" range on them i.e. E IV - VI. The campaign also has a date range that matches - so the idea is that in future they might release more Imperial Assault campaigns set earlier or later than the original trilogy and new side missions to acompany them, so when you build the deck of side missions you can only pick from certain ones that fit with the timeframe. There are other mission cards that are timeless, so have no specified date range.

I think we would see CIS or Hapes as third faction before such thing as Clone Wars. Assuming that FFG actually do new SW ships Hapan faction can be really a thing.

They do create all new ships . The Raider class Corvette for X-Wing and a number of fighter, transport and capital ship models in the RPG were designed in house. They also like to include rarely seen stuff like ships introduced in the PC games that didn't appear elsewhere, and a few ships which only appeared in one novel, or trilogy of novels before FFG included them.

A Hapes faction might be fun if they are willing to create enough ships to fill it out and I would love a CIS or CIS Holdout faction. The on screen CIS capital ships are all medium class or larger (The smallest is between an Assault Frigate and a Victory class in size with the Trade Federation Battleships and Malevolence dwarfing Imperial class Star Destroyers) but there are plenty of smaller capital ships used by the CIS in the EU which they could convert, or they could create new designs.

I hope they never release Clone Wars Era ships.

IMO it would be insane for FFG not to release them eventually. The PT may have sucked but other then the fact that no onscreen warship designs were in my favorite size bracket for Star Wars capships I have no problems with the ships. Why do you dislike them so much?

Not going to lie. I want my Providence Class Carrier/Destroyer, maybe 2 of them. Add in a few Tri-droid fighters and Hyena Bombers and I am in heaven . That would be my fleet.

I would rather use Novaswords and the Porax 38 Rogues over any of the droid fighters but I could see me including a Providence as a flagship of a CIS fleet.

Im not a fan of the clone wars stuff, just cause there is all sorts of other crappy ideas in there that would end up having to get included. (like those silly buzz saw droid things and Jar Jar as a passenger card - I think its safe to say noone wants that to happen).

Edited by MaverickNZ

Buzz droids do make quite a bit of sense as an anti-Corvette missile though if the intention is to capture the ship mostly intact. However at this scale we will most likely not see them even as a card.

In regards to Jar Jar, are you saying that you wouldn't take the opportunity to blow up the ship he is on?

Buzz droids do make quite a bit of sense as an anti-Corvette missile though if the intention is to capture the ship mostly intact. However at this scale we will most likely not see them even as a card.

In regards to Jar Jar, are you saying that you wouldn't take the opportunity to blow up the ship he is on?

I dont think the rules allow you to fire upon your own ships :/

One stumbling block is the difference in power levels are quite extreme. A Victory-1 for example was a VERY powerful ship in the Clone Wars era....far superior to a Venator in a firefight (though a Venator was a far superior carrier of course) There's 3 real choices if they do, to stop it becoming a bit silly.

1) Use an "era system" so that Republic plays against CIS, and Rebels play against Empire. No mixing. This however would split the player base and restrict who they can play (for those that like to play 1 faction only for example), possibly to an unacceptable degree.

or

2) Simply balance the stats so that the early ships are suitably weak compared to the Rebellion era ones. This would almost inevitably disappoint a lot of people when their favourite ship gets some pretty puny stats.

or

3) Ignore the stats and make it so that Clone Wars era ships are roughly equal to the later ones. This would just annoy people too, as it would basically be a cash grab ignoring all the setting and canon (and actual canon too, not just EU).

No perfect answer.

I will always trade Venators for Victories. I will always trade Recusants for Nebulons.

We are being lined up for what we will see in the future movies. Pulling our heads out of the past is where this game is headed. There is no other Clone War material as of late, why ruin Armada with it in the future.