Clarification of the plot card "pariah"

By Funkfried, in Descent: Journeys in the Dark

Good day to you folks,

I have a question regarding the plot card "Pariah" from the Tristayne Olliven Lieutenant Pack. Does this card allow to slip the activation of a Lieutenant into the activation of a regular monster group or is it limited to regular monsters?

The text on the cards reads as follows: "Exhaust this card during your turn and choose 1 monster group. Place this card near thats group's Monster card. While this card is exhausted, you may activate 1 master monster of the chosen group during any other monster group's activation instead of the chosen group's activation."

I hope you can help me.

Best regards

Funkfried

In classic Descent fashion... it depends. =P

According to the base rules, a Lieutenant is treated as "a monster." Not a master monster, mind you, just a monster. IMHO that means the LT is neither master nor minion. It qualifies as "a monster" for effects which are not specific, but it does not qualify as "master monster" or "minion monster." Therefore this card cannot be used on Lieutenants. (I don't remember if there have been any official answers from FFG supporting this interpretation, but I know questions about LTs being masters have arisen in the forums in the past, and this seems to be the popular response, IIRC.)

HOWEVER, According to the rules for Agents in the LT Pack expansions, an Agent is treated as "a master monster" for the open group it is summoned into. So this card can be used on an Agent (which would have to be Tristayne since you can only have one Agent per campaign.) There are other cases where Agents are treated differently than Lieutenants in the rules, so this is not entirely a surprise.

BUT, you still need to keep one eye open, because if you're playing the Shadow of Nerekhall campaign, Tristayne may appear in a quest naturally as an LT. You wouldn't be able to use this card on him in those quests. Only in the ones where you can summon him as an Agent.

Edited by Steve-O

Thank you.

The text on the cards reads as follows:

"Exhaust this card during your turn and choose 1 monster group. Place this card near thats group's Monster card. While this card is exhausted, you may activate 1 master monster of the chosen group during any other monster group's activation instead of the chosen group's activation."

Can I exhaust this card when I finished the last action in current active group's last monster ?

or must I use this card before this group's activation ?

"During your turn" means any time during the "perform actions" step of your turn in which you are not in the middle of performing an action (you cannot exhaust this card during an attack). "Activation" refers to the entire activation of a monster or group- just like you can play "frenzy" after a monster has moved and attacked, you could exhaust this card after some monsters in a group have already activated. You may NOT activate any individual monster twice.

So ,is this card's true meaning " In advance activate specific master monster during other group's activation " ? and will the specific master become activated before his group activate ?

So ,is this card's true meaning " In advance activate specific master monster during other group's activation " ? and will the specific master become activated before his group activate ?

Before, or after. He just is able to activate with a DIFFERENT group. He cannot activate twice.