ARC 170s (again)

By mazz0, in X-Wing

One point I was blind to until I read a second time: FOUR ACES.

I'm really hoping that one of the ACES is generic, as I like not being limited to named pilots.

Nah, you can see all the pilot names (at least, since we know Rebel pilots from the new 'canon' books and such) - and the cards show the 'unique' dot by all of them. So this is the first ship with no generic pilot.

  • Shara Bey (Poe's mom, from 'Shattered Empire' comic books)
  • Norra Wexley ("Snap" Wexley's mom, from 'Aftermath' novel)
  • Braylen Stram ('Blade Squadron' comics)
  • Thane Kyrell ('Lost Stars' novel)

Third, after the Aggressor and the Attack Shuttle.

Is Thane a bit crap in the comics then? PS3 for a named pilot is a little embarrassing!

Are these just characters from the comics who *could* fly ARCs (and maybe will in future), or have they been seen to do so already?

Either way, this proves they've read the comic with Leia in an N1...

Just downloaded the comic.

I bet a lot of opinionated people would be surprised if the next wave included an N1 starfighter

with Leia Organa, Shara Bey, and Queen Soruna as new pilots in the game.

It would be just like the new feminist Disney to push to put Princess Leia in a starfighter.

Rebel N1 Starfighters vs Imperial TIE fighters:

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It would be just like the new feminist Disney to push to put Princess Leia in a starfighter.

Really!? It would 'like the feminist disney' to put out a main character from the trilogy into a game ABOUT STAR WARS!

You're one of those people who hated Daisy Ridley because she's a gurl right? I mean, I'm very much against having certain people in a film just to fill quotas, but the fact that VII had a female lead is not something people should be getting worked up about (or for that matter, people who boycotted on account of John Boyega). Say what you like about the CHARACTER of Rey, but Daisy was very good in the film.

It would be just like the new feminist Disney to push to put Princess Leia in a starfighter.

Really!? It would 'like the feminist disney' to put out a main character from the trilogy into a game ABOUT STAR WARS!

You're one of those people who hated Daisy Ridley because she's a gurl right? I mean, I'm very much against having certain people in a film just to fill quotas, but the fact that VII had a female lead is not something people should be getting worked up about (or for that matter, people who boycotted on account of John Boyega). Say what you like about the CHARACTER of Rey, but Daisy was very good in the film.

Yeah pretty much that. Can't stand Rey as a character but nothing against Ridley herself.

I have no issue with leia flying. She kinda should, honestly. What better vessel to fly, than that of a royal starfighter of her mother's homeworld?

I seriously can't think of anything more fitting.

It would be just like the new feminist Disney to push to put Princess Leia in a starfighter.

Really!? It would 'like the feminist disney' to put out a main character from the trilogy into a game ABOUT STAR WARS!

You're one of those people who hated Daisy Ridley because she's a gurl right? I mean, I'm very much against having certain people in a film just to fill quotas, but the fact that VII had a female lead is not something people should be getting worked up about (or for that matter, people who boycotted on account of John Boyega). Say what you like about the CHARACTER of Rey, but Daisy was very good in the film.

Yeah pretty much that. Can't stand Rey as a character but nothing against Ridley herself.

I have no issue with leia flying. She kinda should, honestly. What better vessel to fly, than that of a royal starfighter of her mother's homeworld?

I seriously can't think of anything more fitting.

Was about to type witty comment about how Leia is from Alderaan, not Naboo. I feel incredibly stupid now :D

It would be just like the new feminist Disney to push to put Princess Leia in a starfighter.

Really!? It would 'like the feminist disney' to put out a main character from the trilogy into a game ABOUT STAR WARS!

You're one of those people who hated Daisy Ridley because she's a gurl right? I mean, I'm very much against having certain people in a film just to fill quotas, but the fact that VII had a female lead is not something people should be getting worked up about (or for that matter, people who boycotted on account of John Boyega). Say what you like about the CHARACTER of Rey, but Daisy was very good in the film.

Yeah pretty much that. Can't stand Rey as a character but nothing against Ridley herself.

I have no issue with leia flying. She kinda should, honestly. What better vessel to fly, than that of a royal starfighter of her mother's homeworld?

I seriously can't think of anything more fitting.

Was about to type witty comment about how Leia is from Alderaan, not Naboo. I feel incredibly stupid now :D

One could argue she's from Polis Massa. Lucky girl.

It would be just like the new feminist Disney to push to put Princess Leia in a starfighter.

Really!? It would 'like the feminist disney' to put out a main character from the trilogy into a game ABOUT STAR WARS!

You're one of those people who hated Daisy Ridley because she's a gurl right? I mean, I'm very much against having certain people in a film just to fill quotas, but the fact that VII had a female lead is not something people should be getting worked up about (or for that matter, people who boycotted on account of John Boyega). Say what you like about the CHARACTER of Rey, but Daisy was very good in the film.

Yeah pretty much that. Can't stand Rey as a character but nothing against Ridley herself.

I have no issue with leia flying. She kinda should, honestly. What better vessel to fly, than that of a royal starfighter of her mother's homeworld?

I seriously can't think of anything more fitting.

Was about to type witty comment about how Leia is from Alderaan, not Naboo. I feel incredibly stupid now :D

One could argue she's from Polis Massa. Lucky girl.

Wow, what a baby on her part then.

You'd think Alderaan's current state would be even more like home..!

Is Thane a bit crap in the comics then? PS3 for a named pilot is a little embarrassing!

Are these just characters from the comics who *could* fly ARCs (and maybe will in future), or have they been seen to do so already?

Either way, this proves they've read the comic with Leia in an N1...

Just downloaded the comic.

I bet a lot of opinionated people would be surprised if the next wave included an N1 starfighter

with Leia Organa, Shara Bey, and Queen Soruna as new pilots in the game.

It would be just like the new feminist Disney to push to put Princess Leia in a starfighter.

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I'd rather have Leia in an X-wing please. :)

done before the disney take over may I add.

Edited by Wiredin

I bet a lot of opinionated people would be surprised if the next wave included an N1 starfighter

with Leia Organa, Shara Bey, and Queen Soruna as new pilots in the game.

I bet they'd stop playing the game, honest they would!

It would be just like the new feminist Disney to push to put Princess Leia in a starfighter.

Really!? It would 'like the feminist disney' to put out a main character from the trilogy into a game ABOUT STAR WARS!

You're one of those people who hated Daisy Ridley because she's a gurl right? I mean, I'm very much against having certain people in a film just to fill quotas, but the fact that VII had a female lead is not something people should be getting worked up about (or for that matter, people who boycotted on account of John Boyega). Say what you like about the CHARACTER of Rey, but Daisy was very good in the film.

Yeah pretty much that. Can't stand Rey as a character but nothing against Ridley herself.

I have no issue with leia flying. She kinda should, honestly. What better vessel to fly, than that of a royal starfighter of her mother's homeworld?

I seriously can't think of anything more fitting.

What the? Why are you all assuming that just because he used the term feminist he meant it as a critisicm? Perhaps me meant it straight up, he's chuffed about Disney having a female lead.

If anything, it could be taken sarcastically, a critisicm of Disney not pushing Rey toys.

Edited by mazz0
You'd think Alderaan's current state would be even more like home..!

I don't know whether to giggle or look aghast.

It would be just like the new feminist Disney to push to put Princess Leia in a starfighter.

Really!? It would 'like the feminist disney' to put out a main character from the trilogy into a game ABOUT STAR WARS!

You're one of those people who hated Daisy Ridley because she's a gurl right? I mean, I'm very much against having certain people in a film just to fill quotas, but the fact that VII had a female lead is not something people should be getting worked up about (or for that matter, people who boycotted on account of John Boyega). Say what you like about the CHARACTER of Rey, but Daisy was very good in the film.

I'm not one of those people who hates Daisy Ridley, try reading with your glasses on, I said Disney not Daisy. I like both Daisy and Rey, but Disney has made statements, Kennedy has made statements (at conventions) that show their leanings. Eg. They went looking for a female for the "Chrome Stormtrooper" role. If I remember correctly someone at a convention in the audience asked Kennedy who was on the Star Wars panel about having more women and they petty much answered they were going that way. I was just stating a fact.

I think it was this one but I'd have to rewatch it to be sure:

(*DONUTS!!)

Edited by gabe69velasquez

I hope they do anyway, those three in N1s would be cool. And not just so you can team them up with the ARC mums to piss off both the prequel haters and the sexists, though that would be awesome.

What would they be like? 2 3 2 2, with a highly menouvrable dial and barrel roll? How much is that worth? Probably far too much to fit three in alongside two ARCs...

I infer that Disney's moves to have female leads has less to do with feminism and more to do with marketing.

Joss Whedon popularized the "spritely young woman with hidden powers" trope in a couple engerprises that brought in some $$$.

Disney execs like $$$.

I hope they do anyway, those three in N1s would be cool. And not just so you can team them up with the ARC mums to piss off both the prequel haters and the sexists, though that would be awesome.

What would they be like? 2 3 2 2, with a highly menouvrable dial and barrel roll? How much is that worth? Probably far too much to fit three in alongside two ARCs...

I did a version for the custom card contest... let copy that over...

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░▒▓█ FINAL SUBMISSION █▓▒░

Submission form: Ship

Author: gabe69velasquez

Name: N1 Starfighter

Full Name: Royal N1 Luxury Starfighter

Faction: Rebel

Size: Small

Attack: 2

Attack Type: Front arc

Agility: 4

Hull: 2

Shield: 2

Action Bar: Focus, Target Lock, Evade, Boost, Barrel Roll

Upgrade Bar: Torpedo, Droid.

Dial:

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GENERIC PILOT 1: PS1, Novice Escort, 27

GENERIC PILOT 2: PS3, Recon Specialist, 29

GENERIC PILOT 3: PS5, Veteran Escort, 31

UNIQUE PILOT 4: PS7, (decided later), 33

UNIQUE PILOT 5: PS9, (decided later), 35

Design Notes:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Skirmish_over_Naboo_(Galactic_Civil_War)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_female_Naboo_Rebel_pilot

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Naboo_Rebel_hangar

EDIT:

http://cardcreator.atelierdufaucon.com/#p1a2d4c2b2oFTRBEiewing£uPAnNovice&sp;Escort£sN1£t£m10231121102212231000100£

I researching the stats I discovered that it is not as fast as an A-wing,

but partly due to size it is more maneuverable.

Edited by gabe69velasquez

I will say it looks way better in black and chrome. I know that FFG when they release it will do standard gold rod, I reckon i'll have to repaint.



I'm not one of those people who hates Daisy Ridley, try reading with your glasses on, I said Disney not Daisy. I like both Daisy and Rey, but Disney has made statements, Kennedy has made statements (at conventions) that show their leanings. Eg. They went looking for a female for the "Chrome Stormtrooper" role. If I remember correctly someone at a convention in the audience asked Kennedy who was on the Star Wars panel about having more women and they petty much answered they were going that way. I was just stating a fact.

I think it was this one but I'd have to rewatch it to be sure:

(*DONUTS!!)

The movie was just copy-paste, rinse and repeat of off ithe previous deathstar plot... lame ass..

I dislike most of the cast of this move for the fact they cant act :) , not because they choose females of coloured peeps.

I love Denzel Washington and some other afro American actors, it just surprises me that they keep getting nobodies in again, maybe because they cost less to hire? dunno, shrug.. O well, one crappy movie later, lets see what the next episode brings us quality-wise.

Action Bar: Focus, Target Lock, Evade, Boost, Barrel Roll

Honestly? I think your giving it way to many abilities, they weren't that good :)

But I like the attempt nonetheless, its a pretty ship, so it should be brought into the game.

Edit, AND I LOVE THE ARC-170 ))))

Edited by Rhaivaen

Not too mention you can't have 5 actions. I think Focus, Evade, Barrel Roll, Target Lock (mandatory because of the torpedo) would be okay, and if we really want 4 agility, maybe 2 Hull 1 Shield is enough.

I'm not one of those people who hates Daisy Ridley, try reading with your glasses on, I said Disney not Daisy. I like both Daisy and Rey, but Disney has made statements, Kennedy has made statements (at conventions) that show their leanings. Eg. They went looking for a female for the "Chrome Stormtrooper" role. If I remember correctly someone at a convention in the audience asked Kennedy who was on the Star Wars panel about having more women and they petty much answered they were going that way. I was just stating a fact.

I think it was this one but I'd have to rewatch it to be sure:

(*DONUTS!!)

The movie was just copy-paste, rinse and repeat of off ithe previous deathstar plot... lame ass..

I dislike most of the cast of this move for the fact they cant act :) , not because they choose females of coloured peeps.

I love Denzel Washington and some other afro American actors, it just surprises me that they keep getting nobodies in again, maybe because they cost less to hire? dunno, shrug.. O well, one crappy movie later, lets see what the next episode brings us quality-wise.

Dude, the acting was pretty good. You don't need a big name for a good performance. The movie has many problems (which don't really bother me much, EPVI had a lot of the same ones and I still love that movie), but the acting is a step up from older Star Wars movies. There is no true dud performance here, only a bit of goof from John Boyega and too much botox on Carry Fishers face. The OT, while it had excellent voicework by James Earl Jones and a stellar performance by Harrison Ford, had pretty cringeworthy scenes with Carry Fisher and a few with Mark Hamill, too. Not to mention Hayden "I hate sand" Christensen in the prequels...

Not too mention you can't have 5 actions. I think Focus, Evade, Barrel Roll, Target Lock (mandatory because of the torpedo) would be okay, and if we really want 4 agility, maybe 2 Hull 1 Shield is enough.

Though I'd go further: action bar of the FO, statline of the Scyk, dial like a tie fighter. Yes, this makes it all but a TIE itself... but then you give it unique pilots only like they did the ARC, so you can sneak one into a list as a cheap bit of filler... but not swarm them.

Done with the right abilities, it might just take the spot of those lonely z-95s without replacing the mini-swarm version thereof. Rebels lack much in the way of flyable-naked sub-20pt aces, after all.

Shrug. I'd have hated it before... but they did the ARC will enough, and it *is* a cool ship for Leia to fly. ;)

I'm not one of those people who hates Daisy Ridley, try reading with your glasses on, I said Disney not Daisy. I like both Daisy and Rey, but Disney has made statements, Kennedy has made statements (at conventions) that show their leanings. Eg. They went looking for a female for the "Chrome Stormtrooper" role. If I remember correctly someone at a convention in the audience asked Kennedy who was on the Star Wars panel about having more women and they petty much answered they were going that way. I was just stating a fact.

I think it was this one but I'd have to rewatch it to be sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fMx670jOnw

(*DONUTS!!)

The movie was just copy-paste, rinse and repeat of off ithe previous deathstar plot... lame ass..

I dislike most of the cast of this move for the fact they cant act :) , not because they choose females of coloured peeps.

I love Denzel Washington and some other afro American actors, it just surprises me that they keep getting nobodies in again, maybe because they cost less to hire? dunno, shrug.. O well, one crappy movie later, lets see what the next episode brings us quality-wise.

I thought Daisy and John (Jon?) Did a pretty good job for a first effort. Harrison acted them off the screen though :)

And yes, they are cheap to hire. They'll be booked in for 3 or 4 major movies - would be way too expensive to get other big names. And new actors is a think Star Wars did - Hamill and Fischer got their breaks there, and Ford had been in Indiana Jones with Lucas only.

As for disney pushing for women, absolutly go for it, good for them. I think fresh IP is the way forward to help diversify hollywood and improve the number of minorities in lead roles. I much prefer it to cha ging existing characters e.g. I think James Bond should always be played by a white male, that's how the character is written and described.

More Daisy, more John please!

Episode 7 - yes, rehash, but efffective. Not really a fan of Death Star 3, but the rest was good.

4 agility seems a bit high - are they supposed to be substantially more manoeuvrable than any other uncloaked ship? I'd also not give them boost AND barrel roll, again I think that's a sign of being top notch super interceptors, and I wasn't aware of them being THAT good.

I think a problem they have is a problem all Amidala's shuttles have - will FFG's painting machines be able to pull off that chrome? Might be expensive, requiring a new system.

4 agility seems a bit high - are they supposed to be substantially more manoeuvrable than any other uncloaked ship? I'd also not give them boost AND barrel roll, again I think that's a sign of being top notch super interceptors, and I wasn't aware of them being THAT good.

I think a problem they have is a problem all Amidala's shuttles have - will FFG's painting machines be able to pull off that chrome? Might be expensive, requiring a new system.

Going the route they took with the ARC you could always make the chrome areas dull, since these are old ships with little care. Wasn't the story in the comic that the N1s were locked up in the hangar ever since the clone wars?

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Anyway, I've backed away from having boost on the N1 as it contradicts

the idea that it is more maneuverable than the A-wing but not as fast.

I justify the 4 agility with the fact that it is a very small craft.

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