And how are the Rebels going to operate those droid starfighters? They'd need control ships. That, and the Empire is, given the Clone Wars, very good at fighting droids, especially with 19 year old combat algorithms (ie: the same ones the Empire fought in the Clone Wars).

The Empire used ARCs (along with V-wings) in its early days so in their Imperial colours they're just about justified there. But putting them in other factions would be shoehorning them.

The rebels in tarkin had control ships so it's in cannon they can get access to separatist ships.

To be fair most combat starship designs are pitched to the Empire first because the Imperial Navy is the big contract.

The problem with Rebel ARCs is it's a worse fit than the Empire. The Imperial ARC is grey with a dirty great big Imperial symbol on the upper hull. That's not going to look right on the rebel side of the table. Put it in red and it looks wrong on the Imperial side of the table.

Bear in mind that by the time the Rebel Alliance is formed the ARC's been out of production for up to 14 years. Unlike the Z-95 and Y-wing, which are or commercially available to planetary defence forces, the ARC is not a ship you can buy. Y-wings and Z-95s are ubiquitous, ARCs are not. Sure, the Rebels might get a few, but unless the Empire took all their ARCs, dumped them on some Outer Rim World and turbolasered the message "insurgents get your guns here" onto the northern hemisphere they're not going to make up any significant portion of the rebel military. Even the Empire's something of a stretch.

The rebels in tarkin had control ships so it's in cannon they can get access to separatist ships.

Canon. A cannon is what you shoot someone with.

Tarkin is set in about 15 BBY, only 5 or so years after the Clone Wars (hence all the ARCs). The insurgents in Tarkin are not the Rebel Alliance. In the new canon the formal Rebel Alliance doesn't exist as of 4 BBY. In Tarkin those insurgents have one control ship which is the capital ship equivalent of an Ugly and which can't hold up to any significant combat. It had the element of surprise and that's about it.

Hey, these ships are being mothballed, the mothballing base is really unprotected. Cool

1 raid later.

Yay we have 92 ARCs, 60 V-wings and another 12 Y-wings. Score.

There are probably a few insurgents using ARCs just as there are probably a few insurgents using TIE fighters.

Plus, again, release practicalities.

The problem with Rebel ARCs is it's a worse fit than the Empire. The Imperial ARC is grey with a dirty great big Imperial symbol on the upper hull. That's not going to look right on the rebel side of the table. Put it in red and it looks wrong on the Imperial side of the table.

TIE's aren't as useful as ARCs etc. Lack of shields and hyperdrive as well as well, pilots just aren't as replacable. Even so yes, TIE's clearly have been used by insurgents (see Rebels finale).

Arcs... yeah I can see it.

Even so yes, TIE's clearly have been used by insurgents (see Rebels finale).

That's one TIE for infiltration. I mean proper TIE useage. But yes, there'll be a rebel cell somewhere that uses 'em.

I can't see the ARC being as useful as the Y-wing. The X-wing was designed by defector scientists so it's almost tailored to Rebel needs, the Y-wing and Z-95 are ubiquitous. The ARC's been out of production for between 14 to 19 years and was only ever a Republic (and then Imperial) starfighter, you could never buy it. Yes, there'll be a few, but I can't see it being nearly as practical to run as the craft the Rebels do use. And by the time the Rebels are powerful enough to have significant manufacturing capability, they're going to make the new stuff, not the old stuff.

ARC only crew: "Tail gunner" Can fire rear gun in a 180 degree arc.

You're arguing too much from an EU fluff perspective, with all your "it's been out of production for n years". If the people in charge want it in the game they came make up fluff to make it work without ruining any old fluff, if they don't then they won't bother.

They don't. See the CEO's comment from GenCon 2014 In Flight Report.

Exactly they've said civil war onward but that's not enough clarification for some people.

So if so much as one EU based showing of a clone wars era ship shows, then it's in the GCW going forward, right?

Eh?

GCW going forward is X-Wing's stated period, so any ship that fits in without making an effort to fit that ship in (shoehorning it) is fair game. Any stuff you write with the goal of adding an out-of-era ship in is shoehorning. If you look at 1999-2005 video games set in the GCW that randomly contain prequel stuff, that's shoehorning. The mission in one of the Rogue Squadron games where Wedge flies a Delta-7, that's shoehorning. If you're having to go to lengths to justify it, you're probably shoehorning.

A ship which is fluffilly justified as being used in the GCW fits what they've said (of course, you're reading far too much into one off tuff comment anyway, but whatever), even if it's an old, prequel era ship.

*off the cuff

Yup, if a ship was used or concievably used in the GCW it would fit.

This if nothing else then justifies the ARC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27_unp3Hxr4

It was shoehorned into Galaxies along with the N-1 and a lot of RotS stuff which then outperformed the GCW stuff, that's where that "elite craft" crap comes from.

The new canon is so far free of shoehorning and more carefully thought out, and there the ARC only appears post Clone Wars as one of the two primary fighter craft of the early Galactic Empire.

The ARC's easily justified as an Imperial ship, although I'm not sure how I feel about seeing it alongside late Empire TIE fighters.

I love how the prequels are so hated that ships from the prequels are far more controversial than ships from random EU comic books. Kind of interesting.

Ah Star Wars.

Technology really hasn't advanced for 30,000 years....

I would take prequel ships over the random EU bull/SWG/Pulled out of ass ships. I'm looking at you Scyk....

It was shoehorned into Galaxies along with the N-1 and a lot of RotS stuff which then outperformed the GCW stuff, that's where that "elite craft" crap comes from.

The new canon is so far free of shoehorning and more carefully thought out, and there the ARC only appears post Clone Wars as one of the two primary fighter craft of the early Galactic Empire.

The ARC's easily justified as an Imperial ship, although I'm not sure how I feel about seeing it alongside late Empire TIE fighters.

Kind of like the TIE/LN and Defender AKA Defender + Miniswarm.

Ah Star Wars.

Technology really hasn't advanced for 30,000 years....

I would take prequel ships over the random EU bull/SWG/Pulled out of ass ships. I'm looking at you Scyk....

I agree with this post, but not the comment regarding the Scyk,. I like the Scyk,. The Scyk is cute.

I like most of the ships added for Galaxies, -except for the Imperial ones. I just don't like pronouncing them.

Ah Star Wars.

Technology really hasn't advanced for 30,000 years....

I would take prequel ships over the random EU bull/SWG/Pulled out of ass ships. I'm looking at you Scyk....

Based on what?

The TIE interceptor is a direct replacement for the TIE fighter. Why, if technology is completely static, would they not just make the interceptor in the first place?

Because Star Wars. It doesn't care about internal logic or consistency because it is science fantasy.

I like most of the ships added for Galaxies, -except for the Imperial ones. I just don't like pronouncing them.

Oppressor and Aggressor never struck me as hard words to pronounce. Do you mean the Scum ones? They have really weird names.

Because Star Wars. It doesn't care about internal logic or consistency because it is science fantasy.

Science fantasy universes don't care about internal consistency because they're science fantasy? That's... just wrong.

Moreover, the statement that LFL doesn't care about internal consistency in of itself is almost insulting to the hard working people who worked at LFL's licensing department and the people in the new Story Group. Their whole job is internal consistency and continuity. If I worked in the Story Group I'd be offended by the suggestion that I don't care about internal consistency.

A major part of crafting a fictional universe, any fictional universe , is making it internally consistent with itself. It may not obey the real world's rules but it sure as hell follows its own. Unless not being internally consistent is intentional or a plot point then it comes under basic writing skill and pretty much every fictional setting is internally consistent. When a world contradicts its rules it's usually assumed by the reader to be a plot point. If you tell the reader or viewer or player something's impossible in Part 1, then do it in Part 2, they'll ask why, and expect to be told.

Besides, you didn't even answer the question. "Because Star Wars" isn't an answer to "Based on what?"

I love how the prequels are so hated that ships from the prequels are far more controversial than ships from random EU comic books. Kind of interesting.

The prequel movie ships are so hated because they're ugly, don't fit with the design style of GCW era ships, weren't particularly powerful in their own era much less GCW, are no longer in use by GCW, and by extension never saw combat in the GCW. They don't belong in a combat miniatures game about the GCW. I don't understand how you don't understand that.

I love how the prequels are so hated that ships from the prequels are far more controversial than ships from random EU comic books. Kind of interesting.

The prequel movie ships are so hated because they're ugly, don't fit with the design style of GCW era ships, weren't particularly powerful in their own era much less GCW, are no longer in use by GCW, and by extension never saw combat in the GCW. They don't belong in a combat miniatures game about the GCW. I don't understand how you don't understand that.

You are really giving them too much credit. They are hated because they are from the prequels. You don't need to say anything more than that.