Ibtisam + Nien Nunb

By Rocmistro, in X-Wing

Nien Nunb says "you may treat all forward maneuvers as green maneuvers" (key word: may)

Does this mean, for example, if I put him with Ibtisam, and on any given round where I decide to perform a 3^ or 4^, that I have the option of whether or not it's green? So, for example, if I pull a 4^ and I want that stress token, I can choose for that 4^ to be red (instead of green)?

Probably doesn't make much sense with that build, b...ut add Advanced Sensors and Push the Limit and you've got a world of possibilities there.

Effects with "may" in them are optional. If you don't want to use it you don't have to.

I will note that if you did a 4 forward, and chose not to make it green, it will still be red. Which means you can't AdvS PTL in order to do a 4red straight, so you'd either have to give your dial to your opponent or activate Nien to clear the stress. Or you could forgo using PTL and then get a stress from the 4 straight if you deem a reroll is better than a second action (aka, against a swarm).

Ibi needs to cost a few points less, he seems so fun but I can never justify him in my lists

I've toyed around with Keyan w/ Lando + PTL. I wonder if an Ibby build like that would work well...

Ibby 28

PTL 3

B/E2 1

Lando 3

Total: 35pts

Optional SJ +4pts

Now you have a ship that can Lando, take an additional focus or barrel roll, have essentially predator/LW built in, allowing her to reroll her attack dice, and then modify with one of those focii if need be... But then on defense, she can basically guaranteed herself at least one evade (assuming Lando didn't fail completely) via rerolling blanks, and turning Focii into evades, or just spending the evade token. All of a sudden, she isn't 100% screwed by ion cannons, as she has a decent chance of avoiding them. I mean, if she fails to avoid it, then she is screwed, but who plays with ions these days?

I would take Advanced Sensors over Sensor Jammer. With Lando you got your Defense covered (sort of), and Advanced Sensors + PTL gives you the opportunity to Barrel Roll out of the way if you're really about to get clobbered.

Plus, Advanced Sensors gives you 2 rounds, potentially, to dial in a green maneuver to clear your stress (pre-dial on the first round of PTL, and post-dial on the 2nd round if you already have it).

And it's 1 point cheaper.

I would take Advanced Sensors over Sensor Jammer. With Lando you got your Defense covered (sort of), and Advanced Sensors + PTL gives you the opportunity to Barrel Roll out of the way if you're really about to get clobbered.

Plus, Advanced Sensors gives you 2 rounds, potentially, to dial in a green maneuver to clear your stress (pre-dial on the first round of PTL, and post-dial on the 2nd round if you already have it).

And it's 1 point cheaper.

Advanced Sensors and Ibby do not go well together. If you want to use her ability, you have to be stressed during the combat phase. At the current moment, there's no way to destress between combat and reveal dial. Therefore, if you're using Ibby's ability, you're not using AdvS. Likewise, if you're using AdvS, you're not (er, weren't) using Ibby's ability.

Nien Nunb says "you may treat all forward maneuvers as green maneuvers" (key word: may)

Does this mean, for example, if I put him with Ibtisam, and on any given round where I decide to perform a 3^ or 4^, that I have the option of whether or not it's green? So, for example, if I pull a 4^ and I want that stress token, I can choose for that 4^ to be red (instead of green)?

Probably doesn't make much sense with that build, b...ut add Advanced Sensors and Push the Limit and you've got a world of possibilities there.

I like this question.

The answer is simple:

Effects with "may" in them are optional. If you don't want to use it you don't have to.

But that's not really the point. Even those of us who know the answer, might not have actually thought about that particular combination of cards and effects. This may or may not lead to a great list, but it gives a bit of mental flexibility that is needed to create a great list.

So keep asking questions, even if the answer is really easy. The ensuing conversation could be the key to unlocking something interesting.

Thanks Pundit.

But I'm afraid I don't really understand Khyros response (above you). I think Ibby and Advanced Sensors go fine together (as well as any other B Wing Pilot).

If you want that stress in the combat round, and the only way to get it is to dial in a red maneuver, A.S. helps in that you still get to take an action. It can only possibly help. If you didn't dial in red, A.S. will not change your access to stress so it doesn't hurt you in anyway.

Having Nien Nunb doesn't change anything about this. That is really the key point of the original question. With the option to treat your 3^ and 4^ as green, you can:

-clear stress during movement if you had it in the previous round

or

-disregard the 4^ as green, treat it as red (if you *didn't* have stress) and thus get your stress bonus for combat in the coming round.

-disregard the 3^ as white, and thus not clear stress (if you did already have it), and thus get your stress bonus for combat in the coming round.

Push the limit is great in that it gives you the flexibility to weave another stress inducer into your actions, (regardless of your maneuver dial if you don't want a red maneuver) as well as the obvious bonus of 2 actions.

Aside from the point cost of the build, I see nothing bad here. You've gotten a bunch of ways to induce stress (red or PTL), and an expanded toolkit to clear stress (more green maneuvers and more flexibility in when they apply), if you want to.

Ya also just as an alternate suggestion you could accomplish the same Ibby effect without a stress. Lone wolf on nera Dantels nets you ibbys ability (minus the stress) and neras torpedo turret ability. All for the same price as Ibby.

Edited by Jaden Ckast