So I didn't really think of this until just recently and I'd like some ideas on what others used in their games when the same issue arose.

Basically my players are currently on Nar Shadaa where they've tracked down their clients missing daughter who was taken by a human trafficking ring and sold to a Hutt owned casino to be trained, essentially, as an escort. They've broken in to their security wing where she's being re-educated (drugs pain therapy, etc) and our largest member wants to sling her over his shoulder and carry her out. Now that's where our last session ended so my question comes in at how do you calculate the enc value of a person?

Now I think obviously this is going to depend on their silhouette, possible body shape and weight as well as what they're carrying but there's a lot of scenarios where this might be very relavant so all ideas are appreciated.

This has not arisen in any of my group's games yet, so I'm interested to see what others' thoughts are too - mainly so I can be prepared for the inevitable "carrying-friend-at-death's-door-through-Hell-itself" sequence. In fairness, I've not had to bother with the encumbrance rules because everyone's kept it within reason. Though if anyone tries to steal an ATM machine (or nearest SW equivalent) on foot then I'm going to luck super-unprepared, so I should check that part of the book. Thanks for the warning.

I can't remember the rules but I believe a person's own encumbrance is 5+Brawn. Essentially, their encumbrance is the same as their encumbrance threshold (minus items that increase encumbrance capacity).

Edit: On page 166 of my AoR book it says:

"When carried, a living being generally has an encumbrance value of 5 plus their Brawn. A Typical human, such as a soldier for the Rebel Alliance, has a Brawn of 2, and therefor a total Encumbrance value of 7."

And then probably halve it for a child and quarter it for an infant. So a child with a brawn of 2 would be (5 + 2)/2 = 4. An infant would be (5 + 2)/4 = 2.

I can't remember the rules but I believe a person's own encumbrance is 5+Brawn. Essentially, their encumbrance is the same as their encumbrance threshold (minus items that increase encumbrance capacity).

Edit: On page 166 of my AoR book it says:

"When carried, a living being generally has an encumbrance value of 5 plus their Brawn. A Typical human, such as a soldier for the Rebel Alliance, has a Brawn of 2, and therefor a total Encumbrance value of 7."

What's the encumbrance of a busted protocol droid in a backpack?

The same, but you get to knock off 4 from the backpack. So 2 (5+1-4)

What's the encumbrance of a busted protocol droid in a backpack?

Since he's brawn 1 it'd be 6, but I'd be inclined to add 1 more since carrying a bunch of pieces is more inconvenient. Then the backpack reduces all that by 4. So the answer is clearly 3.

What's the encumbrance of a busted protocol droid in a backpack?

What do you mean? An Industrial Automation or Cybot Galactica protocol droid?

Im now thinking of ways to have 'Cypher' (Slicer Protocol Droid) on of the PC's in my party be dismembered just to use these suggestions!

I wouldn't forget to consider the encumbrance being carried by the person you are carrying. Imagine carrying a Stormtrooper over your shoulder while he is donned in full Laminate (4 Enc) with a Blaster Carbine (3 Enc) holstered at his hip. You may have to strip him down to his Darth Vader underoos first.

Well, the obvious answer is to put on the bloody white laminate yourself, and back to 8 , or 6 if you put the head in the helmet carrying it like a grocery sack. (Toss the blaster... darn things don't work anyway - look at it's previous owner. I mean, do you want a suit of armor to decorate your grand hallway or not?)

Imagine carrying a Stormtrooper over your shoulder while he is donned in full Laminate (4 Enc) ...

That raises a question. Would the Laminate armor be encumberance 1 or 4? If the person you are carrying is wearing the armor you are carrying, do you get the -3 for wearing armor? I would be inclined to say yes, because carrying a person in armor should be easier than carrying a person and armor.

Also, do they have push/pull/drag rules in EotE? Maybe the troopers have handles hidden on their armor so you can easily drag them away, just like US troops.

Imagine carrying a Stormtrooper over your shoulder while he is donned in full Laminate (4 Enc) ...

That raises a question. Would the Laminate armor be encumberance 1 or 4? If the person you are carrying is wearing the armor you are carrying, do you get the -3 for wearing armor? I would be inclined to say yes, because carrying a person in armor should be easier than carrying a person and armor.

Also, do they have push/pull/drag rules in EotE? Maybe the troopers have handles hidden on their armor so you can easily drag them away, just like US troops.

I don't recall any specific rules for dragging, but in that scenario, dragging a person isn't very hard at all. As someone with experience as a medic, people are fairly easy to move. Even in a fireman's carry, I can move at a light jog with up to 150lbs, while still carrying my own weapon.

Page 152 of EOTE: there is example of lifing and ally and lifting something over your threshold as well as help lifting it. BELOW the rule is an example box of Lowhrick lifting a Rodian named Kappo over his shoulder. Kappo is encumbrance 7-- so I'm assuming a normal sized humanoid is encum 7 give or take. Half if child, would make sense if you need to apply for children though no specific rule for that.

Hope that helps!!

Imagine carrying a Stormtrooper over your shoulder while he is donned in full Laminate (4 Enc) ...

That raises a question. Would the Laminate armor be encumberance 1 or 4? If the person you are carrying is wearing the armor you are carrying, do you get the -3 for wearing armor? I would be inclined to say yes, because carrying a person in armor should be easier than carrying a person and armor.

Also, do they have push/pull/drag rules in EotE? Maybe the troopers have handles hidden on their armor so you can easily drag them away, just like US troops.

As for dragging I imagine that's narrative based on if you are encumbered and if so how much. So if the person doesn't put you over your threshold your basically holding them in one arm tossed over your shoulder or slung by your side, if your over and suffering setback they're slowing you down a bit but you're still carrying them, if they put you over by your brawn then you're dragging them which would be represented by you loosing your free maneuver as per the rules for being encumbered past your brawn, after all it may not be super hard to drag someone but it is going to slow you down and make shooting or taking other actions more difficult.

I wouldn't add extra encum to the base 7 of a normal person-- he's wearing it and we'll your starting to over implicate things.

Base 7 encum per the example in EOTE and that's that.

Imagine carrying a Stormtrooper over your shoulder while he is donned in full Laminate (4 Enc) ...

That raises a question. Would the Laminate armor be encumberance 1 or 4? If the person you are carrying is wearing the armor you are carrying, do you get the -3 for wearing armor? I would be inclined to say yes, because carrying a person in armor should be easier than carrying a person and armor.

Also, do they have push/pull/drag rules in EotE? Maybe the troopers have handles hidden on their armor so you can easily drag them away, just like US troops.

According to RAW the armor is worn so it's encumbrance is reduced as per norm.

Sense wise this is because encumbrance is a combination of weight and how unwieldy something is. Ie armor is heavy sure, but it's a hell of a lot easier to carry around one that's stuck to someone that it is when it's in pieces and you've got to move slowly and balance it or have pieces toppling to the floor. A somewhat silly but good example would be when you're getting laundry out of the dryer, if you happened to put some of it on it would be easier to carry because now the waded load doesn't have random socks dropping to the ground every few steps you take forcing you to bend over and pick them back up.

I would say enc would be a most 7, but probably lower

So, are RLogue177 and DeadBothanSpy the only two that got the Monty Python reference?

So, are RLogue177 and DeadBothanSpy the only two that got the Monty Python reference?

Or the rest of us just moved on and didn't comment on the "obvious"...

So, are RLogue177 and DeadBothanSpy the only two that got the Monty Python reference?

Here ya go