Hey, guys, I have seen some disappointment with the Scyk, particularly regarding its dial, and I was curious as to why? I think the its a great ship and here's why:

The M3-A has a good dial. It can absolutely fill the roll of an "interceptor" craft inside the scum faction. More to the point, Serissu will have little issue keeping up with most of the other craft in the game. Also, each of the other factions only has one ship with the boost action stock. Scum already has 2. If you want a "TIE Interceptor" in the Scum Faction, you should be looking to the IG2000. The biggest weakness there is its large base, but it is a powerful and versatile craft, with the boost action. Also, Guri will be able to carry the role fairly well with her card ability, even though the StarViper may not be as good as stress shedding as some would have liked.

The M3-A is solid, cheap, and versatile. It was never meant to be equivalent to the TIE interceptor or A wing, and that is not what the designers meant when they says that. Swarm them, or give them a Mangler Cannon and have some fun.

What do you think?!

Edit:

Not trying to make anyone angry or to be abrasive. Just want to see what you guys think of the dial and why there seems to be such overwhelming disappointment. I just keep reading people saying that they are upset that it isn't more TIE Interceptor-like or that its generally weaker than they expected. It's going to be a fun, versatile ship, and I am really looking forward to it. Honestly, I was just kinda bummed when I saw all the naysayers, and I'm interested in your opinions. I want to know what you think of the dial and the ship in general!

Let me know your thoughts, and as always, Fly Casual!

Are you saying that there are other ships with the interceptor role? In that case yeah, of course.

Or are you saying that people won't know you mean TIE Interceptor when you say interceptor? Because I think that everyone is going to call the scyk the scyk.

I will call the M3-A the Scyk, and reserve my fiery hatred for those who call TIE Interceptors "Squints."

Are you saying that there are other ships with the interceptor role? In that case yeah, of course.

Or are you saying that people won't know you mean TIE Interceptor when you say interceptor? Because I think that everyone is going to call the scyk the scyk.

I will call the M3-A the Scyk, and reserve my fiery hatred for those who call TIE Interceptors "Squints."

No, I mean to say that the designers have said the ship fills an"interceptor" role in the faction. Many assumed it would be essentially equivalent to a TIEinterceptor or A wing, which it was fairly clearly never going to be. Now that the dial is released, there has been a lot of vocal disappointment because it can't be flown like their view of an "interceptor" which for everyone is apparently a TIE interceptor or bust for most posters that I have read.

The ship is good and can be quite versatile, shouldn't we by happy about that?

Are you saying that there are other ships with the interceptor role? In that case yeah, of course.

Or are you saying that people won't know you mean TIE Interceptor when you say interceptor? Because I think that everyone is going to call the scyk the scyk.

I will call the M3-A the Scyk, and reserve my fiery hatred for those who call TIE Interceptors "Squints."

No, I mean to say that the designers have said the ship fills an"interceptor" role in the faction. Many assumed it would be essentially equivalent to a TIEinterceptor or A wing, which it was fairly clearly never going to be. Now that the dial is released, there has been a lot of vocal disappointment because it can't be flown like their view of an "interceptor" which for everyone is apparently a TIE interceptor or bust for most posters that I have read.

The ship is good and can be quite versatile, shouldn't we by happy about that?

Sorry, but where could I find the scyk dial?

Geez, I didn't mean to open a can of worms by saying I didn't think the dial was worthy of the name "Interceptor". I only commented because I love flying Interceptors (both the TIE and A-Wing variety) and was disappointed that the Scum ship sharing a name didn't live up to that maneuverabiliy. That's all I meant.

If you're talking about background, then sure. But I've "intercepted" dudes with Horton Salm before, in this game. Setup is such an important factor (with no real-world or background equivalent) that referring to a ship's role as an interceptor doesn't necessarily mean that much.

Are you saying that there are other ships with the interceptor role? In that case yeah, of course.

Or are you saying that people won't know you mean TIE Interceptor when you say interceptor? Because I think that everyone is going to call the scyk the scyk.

I will call the M3-A the Scyk, and reserve my fiery hatred for those who call TIE Interceptors "Squints."

No, I mean to say that the designers have said the ship fills an"interceptor" role in the faction. Many assumed it would be essentially equivalent to a TIEinterceptor or A wing, which it was fairly clearly never going to be. Now that the dial is released, there has been a lot of vocal disappointment because it can't be flown like their view of an "interceptor" which for everyone is apparently a TIE interceptor or bust for most posters that I have read.

The ship is good and can be quite versatile, shouldn't we by happy about that?

VERY... I am.

I will call the M3-A the Scyk, and reserve my fiery hatred for those who call TIE Interceptors "Squints."

We've been calling 'em "Squints" since the first few pages of the first Rogue Squadron book. Pick a new fight.

Its a terrible nickname though. I've always hated it. Tie Int is just as easy to say and doesnt sound daft.

As for the Scyk not being an 'interceptor' becasue of its dial, maybe it is by the standards of the race that built it and the time frame.

The mig 25 was built as an 'interceptor' but it would struggle against the latest generation of air superiority fighters.

Like a spitfire and a f16 are both 'fighters' but ones not going home intact in a clash

What does PSA Standfor?

I don't know, the lack of 3 turns is a bit odd. Sort of like with the StarViper. The dial isn't bad, but it will be interesting to see how they play out.

What does PSA Standfor?

Public Service Announcement

If the Z-95 is the fighter of its generation, the Scyk is the interceptor. The Z is more conventional, built a little more ruggedly and with integrated ordnance, designed for a multi-purpose role. The Scyk is designed strictly to go after other fighters, either by swarming them or by upgrading to the Heavy variant and employing more brute-force methods. That's the difference between a fighter and an interceptor.

As for "squints" and whatnot, I've never been a fan of the informal nomenclature chosen by the EU authors. Fortunately, Disney has a chance to codify a replacement, or confirm existing usage as official, most especially in Episode VII.

If someone says Interceptor you know which ship they're talking about, same as if they said Advanced, Defender or Phantom. Everyone calls the M3-A interceptor the Scyk and the RZ-1 interceptor the A-wing. We get it, they're both interceptors, but nobody just says "interceptor" to mean RZ-1 or M3-A.

As for "squints" and whatnot, I've never been a fan of the informal nomenclature chosen by the EU authors.

"Squint" is genius. You get where it comes from, right?

Its a terrible nickname though. I've always hated it. Tie Int is just as easy to say and doesnt sound daft.

It's daft if you think it's a portmanteau. When you realise where it comes from it's pretty **** clever.

What does PSA Standfor?

Public Service Announcement.

I am going to call the Scyk.. Sick..

Like a spitfire and a f16 are both 'fighters' but ones not going home intact in a clash

Spit wins, hands down.

What does PSA Standfor?

Public Service Announcement

Thanks. Now I know to avoid any threads with PSA. Because they a just someone complaining about something in most cases useless. Like Chirnow and chirppy or whatever.

If someone says Interceptor you know which ship they're talking about, same as if they said Advanced, Defender or Phantom. Everyone calls the M3-A interceptor the Scyk and the RZ-1 interceptor the A-wing. We get it, they're both interceptors, but nobody just says "interceptor" to mean RZ-1 or M3-A.

As for "squints" and whatnot, I've never been a fan of the informal nomenclature chosen by the EU authors.

"Squint" is genius. You get where it comes from, right?

Its a terrible nickname though. I've always hated it. Tie Int is just as easy to say and doesnt sound daft.

It's daft if you think it's a portmanteau. When you realise where it comes from it's pretty **** clever.

I get that it comes from a fairly poor series of books where for some reason *every* imperial ship had to have some 'nickname', most of which are lame

If someone says Interceptor you know which ship they're talking about, same as if they said Advanced, Defender or Phantom. Everyone calls the M3-A interceptor the Scyk and the RZ-1 interceptor the A-wing. We get it, they're both interceptors, but nobody just says "interceptor" to mean RZ-1 or M3-A.

As for "squints" and whatnot, I've never been a fan of the informal nomenclature chosen by the EU authors.

"Squint" is genius. You get where it comes from, right?

Its a terrible nickname though. I've always hated it. Tie Int is just as easy to say and doesnt sound daft.

It's daft if you think it's a portmanteau. When you realise where it comes from it's pretty **** clever.

I get that it comes from a fairly poor series of books where for some reason *every* imperial ship had to have some 'nickname', most of which are lame

Seriously. "Eyeball"? Really? Lame.

The world is visual.. and they make sense. As an ex military member, I can guarantee you that we all call many things by nicknames, just what we do. The ones for TIE ships are common sense names and we all know what they mena, eyeballs, squints .... there is no confusion, andyou know just what they mean.

As for the name 'Interceptor' yes a few ships fill the classification of that roll, but only the TIE interceptor will ever be called that, because when you hear the word, in a star wars conversation, your mind flashes to that particular design of ship. Just like when you hear TIE fighter, you think of the ship with the large hex shapped wings...

We dont call an A wing an interceptor, which it is, because it's an Awing.. same will be with the M3a..

I only commented because I love flying Interceptors (both the TIE and A-Wing variety) and was disappointed that the Scum ship sharing a name didn't live up to that maneuverabiliy. That's all I meant.

EXACTLY!!!

I'm getting pretty sick of a couple people (in 3 different threads now) jumping up and down on people for expressing surprise at the dial. No one, absolutely no one has been saying that it should have been as good as a TIE Interceptor. No one has been saying it isn't a good ship. All anyone has been saying is "Huh. with a name like "Interceptor" and only a point less than an a-wing (with refit) I expected it to have a better dial than that."

If people had just gone "Yeah, well I guess FFG wanted to emphasize that it was older, outdated tech." That would have been the end of it. Instead it's been a non-stop stream of "Anyone with an ounce of common sense should have known it wasn't going to be a copy of the TIE Interceptor!!" (something no one was saying in the first place).

Get over it people. Some people were expecting it to have a better dial than it has. We don't need an entire thread whose only purpose is to try and belittle them for that.

Hey, I just want to say that I didn't mean to make anyone angry. I should likely be more tactful in the naming of my threads. All I ever want to do is start some interesting discussion. The point of the thread was that I was just surprised by all the disappointment I had seen on the forum, and most people attributed their disappointment to the frequent use of the word "interceptor" while describing the Scyk, compared to the way the dial turned out.

I'll update the original post to reflect this. I really didn't mean to be abrasive or make anyone angry. I am really excited about the Scyk, and was just taken aback by all the negativity I had seen about it since the dial leaked. Spreading more negativity obviously doesn't help the situation, and I should have worded my post more carefully. My bad. Let's all just Fly Casual!

I only commented because I love flying Interceptors (both the TIE and A-Wing variety) and was disappointed that the Scum ship sharing a name didn't live up to that maneuverabiliy. That's all I meant.

EXACTLY!!!

I'm getting pretty sick of a couple people (in 3 different threads now) jumping up and down on people for expressing surprise at the dial. No one, absolutely no one has been saying that it should have been as good as a TIE Interceptor. No one has been saying it isn't a good ship. All anyone has been saying is "Huh. with a name like "Interceptor" and only a point less than an a-wing (with refit) I expected it to have a better dial than that."

If people had just gone "Yeah, well I guess FFG wanted to emphasize that it was older, outdated tech." That would have been the end of it. Instead it's been a non-stop stream of "Anyone with an ounce of common sense should have known it wasn't going to be a copy of the TIE Interceptor!!" (something no one was saying in the first place).

Get over it people. Some people were expecting it to have a better dial than it has. We don't need an entire thread whose only purpose is to try and belittle them for that.

Would you say you're getting... Scyk of it?

*puts on sunglasses*

I only commented because I love flying Interceptors (both the TIE and A-Wing variety) and was disappointed that the Scum ship sharing a name didn't live up to that maneuverabiliy. That's all I meant.

EXACTLY!!!

I'm getting pretty sick of a couple people (in 3 different threads now) jumping up and down on people for expressing surprise at the dial. No one, absolutely no one has been saying that it should have been as good as a TIE Interceptor. No one has been saying it isn't a good ship. All anyone has been saying is "Huh. with a name like "Interceptor" and only a point less than an a-wing (with refit) I expected it to have a better dial than that."

If people had just gone "Yeah, well I guess FFG wanted to emphasize that it was older, outdated tech." That would have been the end of it. Instead it's been a non-stop stream of "Anyone with an ounce of common sense should have known it wasn't going to be a copy of the TIE Interceptor!!" (something no one was saying in the first place).

Get over it people. Some people were expecting it to have a better dial than it has. We don't need an entire thread whose only purpose is to try and belittle them for that.

Would you say you're getting... Scyk of it?

*puts on sunglasses*