I think that has the potentially to be very good. If Vader can carry over a target lock on something and since he's ps 9 get to range 1, expose and then focus. That's 4 attack dice adding a 5th crit focused for only 34 points.

i somewhat like that idea. but i still would put EU on vader to be able to arc dodge.

Only downside being you lose an agi. Definately worth giving it a go though. People dont play Imperial to play safe (thinking of that Get Guts Imperial Propaganda poster hehe). I was thinking about maybe another PS9(s) to strip focus token and trying Opportunist on Vader. Not a fan of the stress it would give him though, not many options available to the Advanced when its stressed.

Expose is still flat out worse than the focus action. That's why EI exists.

Expose is still flat out worse than the focus action. That's why EI exists.

That's why he's choosing Darth Vader. 2 actions, all the time. A third with EI or Push.

So with EI and expose you could expose, target lock, and focus? That'd be pretty **** good. Expensive though. Also you'd be a huge target.

So with EI and expose you could expose, target lock, and focus? That'd be pretty **** good. Expensive though. Also you'd be a huge target.

Yup, three focused dice, 4 at Range 1, and add a free crit result.

Expose is still flat out worse than the focus action. That's why EI exists.

Expose+TL and Expose+focus are slightly better than TL+focus.

Of course, you can't spend your TL if you want the ATC benefit, so you're looking at a setup round of TL+focus and then an attack round of Expose+focus with ATC, cutting the benefit of Expose even further. Oh, and it turns you from a really good defensive ship into a fairly squishy one, particularly since you probably won't have any actions left over to support your two defense dice.

But yeah, other than all of that, it seems completely worth spending four points and taking up your EPT slot!

Just remember that the Advanced only has 2 straight, 3 straight and 1 banks to relieve stress making you extremely predictable...

I've run vader and expose expose before. People seem to forget that you can arc dodge all day, and save expose for opportunistic shots, your range ones, what have you. He wrecks anything that doesn't have a turret in that set up. He's basically an x wing that has way more options.

I've run vader and expose expose before. People seem to forget that you can arc dodge all day, and save expose for opportunistic shots, your range ones, what have you. He wrecks anything that doesn't have a turret in that set up. He's basically an x wing that has way more options.

...so your argument in favor of Expose is that sometimes it's merely dead weight, rather than actively making your ship worse? I remain unconvinced.

Just remember that the Advanced only has 2 straight, 3 straight and 1 banks to relieve stress making you extremely predictable...

Where is the stress coming from?

I agree with Vorpal: Expose is barely playable on Vader, but for 4 points it's not doing anywhere near enough. For 1 point less Predator will do much the same thing most of the time, and plays better with the ATC while it's at it (since it doesn't require an action, leaving you free to TL at will).

Just remember that the Advanced only has 2 straight, 3 straight and 1 banks to relieve stress making you extremely predictable...

Where is the stress coming from?

I agree with Vorpal: Expose is barely playable on Vader, but for 4 points it's not doing anywhere near enough. For 1 point less Predator will do much the same thing most of the time, and plays better with the ATC while it's at it (since it doesn't require an action, leaving you free to TL at will).

People have started talking about Expose + EI. That's where.

I used EI with Squad Leader and that was fun but it was my first time flying TIE Advanced and honestly the green made it hard to stay mobile while stressed. I'd rather have two actions and no stress.

Just remember that the Advanced only has 2 straight, 3 straight and 1 banks to relieve stress making you extremely predictable...

Where is the stress coming from?

I agree with Vorpal: Expose is barely playable on Vader, but for 4 points it's not doing anywhere near enough. For 1 point less Predator will do much the same thing most of the time, and plays better with the ATC while it's at it (since it doesn't require an action, leaving you free to TL at will).

I like action independent EPTs on Vader. He already suffers enough if he gets blocked because he loses two actions. I'd prefer to not lose the benefit of his EPT in that situation as well.

I dunno I still feel the decimator is where expose belongs, yeah Vader could hit hard but he could also leave himself vulnerable to a world of hurt.

I used to try to make expose work and it either makes Vader too vulnerable or I wated points and didn't use it. I don't see a reason to ever take it over outmaneuver with Vaders ability to arc dodge especially with EU.

Just remember that the Advanced only has 2 straight, 3 straight and 1 banks to relieve stress making you extremely predictable...

No, I am never predictable, I'm fine flying with a stress token a couple turns to throw off my opponent.. I'm always amused by this statement, if you are doing your job, your opponent will be wondering what your doing.

Honestly, I don't full get the love affair with Expose. For Vader, Outmaneuver + ATC is downright evil; the crits land constantly. If you prefer re-rolls, Predator. Leave his actions for re-engaging his TL and Focus, or for positioning/defense. EI isn't great because the TIE Advanced isn't super at shedding stress.

I've run Vader Exposed and the pitfall is indeed the reduced agility, Predator is the way to go with ACT & EU.

I can't say I like the idea. Too expensive, too vulnerable (remember, guys, turrets aren't going away), doesn't seem terribly effective (only modifiers are focus and +1 crit result)

Personally just going to slap EU on him and either Predator or Outmanuever or, if phantoms persist, V.I

After the lock lands, the rest of the actions are going straight into boost/roll/focus/evade, because **** having to roll green dice

Just remember that the Advanced only has 2 straight, 3 straight and 1 banks to relieve stress making you extremely predictable...

No, I am never predictable, I'm fine flying with a stress token a couple turns to throw off my opponent.. I'm always amused by this statement, if you are doing your job, your opponent will be wondering what your doing.

I'd be happy to have you fly around stressed in a 37pt triple action ship for a few turns

Just remember that the Advanced only has 2 straight, 3 straight and 1 banks to relieve stress making you extremely predictable...

No, I am never predictable, I'm fine flying with a stress token a couple turns to throw off my opponent.. I'm always amused by this statement, if you are doing your job, your opponent will be wondering what your doing.

I'd be happy to have you fly around stressed in a 37pt triple action ship for a few turns

No, I don't think you would.. I kill things when I'm stressed.. my 9s list kills thing real good.. Vader Fel, and Turr... all 9, all fun... all deadly.. and undefeated..

I tested

Vader + ATC + Expose + EI

3 x Tempest + AC

In short: it was a slaughter.

Vader drawed almost all enemy fire. Never had a chance to use Expose ... I needed to use his actions to evade.

But the Tempest did the trick. They managed to reduce the enemy ships to space rubble.

All ships survived. Vader with 1 hull left.

Next time I'm going to test EU + Daredevil

Oof. With the full EI treatment, Vader Target Locking, Focusing, and Exposing is getting 3.25 hits with the average roll, with one automatically being a crit. Up close you're averaging 4 hits, with one being automatic crit. Honestly, though, Predator is almost always going to be better, right? It's 3 points less than Expose+Experimental Interface, no AGI or Stress tax, and works without actions.