Hey everybody,

I'm coming up on my 10th Shapeways ship and don't plan to stop. However, I just have bases from whatever I've bought already. Are any bases for sale of either size that assemble/disassemble just like the ffg ones? I know Litko are...acceptable if you're cool gluing them together, Corsec bases seem usable too but before I start magnetizing everything, I'd rather examine any options that are push-together-and-go, again like the legit ones. I found some different stuff on miniaturemarket, can anyone confirm if these bases, technically for Attack Wing, are the same size? It really looks like it..

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/ssearch?q=attack+wing+base

Worst case scenario, the bases themselves seem easy enough to resin cast, but that still leaves pegs. Would someone somewhere have any reason to sell them in bulk or separately at all, or is that market not yet big enough for it to be viable? Again presuming nothing in the search above will work (I dont see why it wouldn't..)

thanks for reading.

The attack wing ones have different pegs, or more specifically, they don't have pegs. They have an extended lip with a gap for the movement template. Beyond that, I think they're the same.

The attack wing ones have different pegs, or more specifically, they don't have pegs. They have an extended lip with a gap for the movement template. Beyond that, I think they're the same.

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/catalog/product/view/id/41425/s/wzk71687/

I may misunderstand here, but that "contents" list in the description plus the image following it are pretty blatant false advertising if no Attack Wing bases come with pegs.. though those are DND: Attack Wing, not Star Trek. That said, they look perfect otherwise..

Oops, I was thinking nubs for some reason, not pegs. The Attack Wing stuff has the pegs (stands), but their bases don't have nubs.

Too early for my head to think, sorry

Oops, I was thinking nubs for some reason, not pegs. The Attack Wing stuff has the pegs (stands), but their bases don't have nubs.

Too early for my head to think, sorry

LOL no worries! But they do seem to have these "slots" in the front, presumably the same width as an X-wing maneuver template, therefore usable in a casual setting? Obviously not even the ships are allowed in most tournaments even as eye candy to play as something tournament legal so that's been out the window from the start, but otherwise they should work?

I asked a friend who bought a set, he says:

the pegs that go in the ships are slightly fatter. You have to lightly sand them to make them glide smoothly.

Should be perfectly fine for casual play. The nub difference doesn't change much.

The Wiz Kids attack wing bases work great for casual play. Just expect a very frosty reception if you try to use them at any kind of tournament. Once you get the small bases and do a direct comparison you will see the ever so slight differences that do not affect gameplay.

I wouldn't use them in casual play, as they will lose you a couple mm in distance in either end of the move... for me that is enough to never use them, also, I'd ask someone not to use them in a game as well.

I wouldn't use them in casual play, as they will lose you a couple mm in distance in either end of the move... for me that is enough to never use them, also, I'd ask someone not to use them in a game as well.

Making the priority to get all my 3rd party ships some bases that they currently don't have at all if the official ships are flying. This could only be for display purposes as far as you need concern yourself. But in terms of gameplay, if you must make this post about it, I don't care about a single digit margin in millimeters due to a slight design difference.

I respect your opinion but your views here are between you and your opponents, I'm not saying anyone should or shouldn't use anything, I'm examining options for me. If you're gonna post said opinion, please take the extra two minutes to bring something tangible to the discussion.

The Wiz Kids attack wing bases work great for casual play. Just expect a very frosty reception if you try to use them at any kind of tournament. Once you get the small bases and do a direct comparison you will see the ever so slight differences that do not affect gameplay.

Great to know, thanks. Moreover, I would usually expect as such depending on the venue, though that'll never be an issue due to me owning as many official bases as I have models, these would be solely for my Shapeways stuff.

Well, my tangible part in this was that they are the wrong base, and different in design. Hence they would change how far you move. That in itself makes them problematic...

Weather you found that useful or not, is up to you.

Hey oneway have you actually put the bases up against each other? There is no couple of mm differences in the bases the differences are "COSMETIC". They both fit the range rulers the same way they are both the same width and length. Since Shapeways aren't eligible for tournament play they are actually a good choice. In my opinion .My local game shop sells them in the standard Wiz Kids package of 4 bases for $4.99. As I come up with more new unofficial ships I have a ready supply of bases locally. The link you posted hammerghast is certainly more economical and I probably will pick up a package or 2 so I have a large base for the Bird of Prey I am working on as a small freighter. Now if I could just figger out how to make some GOOD looking dials I would be set.

Actually, the wizkids base has an indented area where the movement template fits in, so yes you do lose a little distance. The bases are the same size though. I've played attack wing, so I do have experience with them. I wouldn't use them. I have 80 some odd ships, so when I have a shapeways ship I just use the regular bases for them.

I have a to say I love the WIZZIES bases much more than the FFG bases. They are structurally sound with a better indicator with the insets as opposed to the teats. The colors look great on the table, even over solid black. They can be made to work with Huge ships too.

I purchased a dozen packs on sale this holiday, and I am going to be using them for both X-Wing and STAW.

Team Covenant has X-wing base/stands, though they're frequently sold out. I really wish FFG would sell these -- I live in constant fear of breaking one.

Team Covenant has X-wing base/stands, though they're frequently sold out. I really wish FFG would sell these -- I live in constant fear of breaking one.

This I never knew about. That's cool how they sell ships without bases as an option to keep expanding for less.

Actually, the wizkids base has an indented area where the movement template fits in, so yes you do lose a little distance.

I think I finally understand after re-reading Katman's post. The wizkids ones are the same footprint, thus the indent in them "cuts into" the base thus artifically "shortening" the template, I guess to keep the lip going around the base to form the indent from expanding the base footprint?

Actually, the wizkids base has an indented area where the movement template fits in, so yes you do lose a little distance.

I think I finally understand after re-reading Katman's post. The wizkids ones are the same footprint, thus the indent in them "cuts into" the base thus artifically "shortening" the template, I guess to keep the lip going around the base to form the indent from expanding the base footprint?

Yeah that is right but when you are using these bases for the game it does not matter.

Now if you mix these bases then yeah, but who would mix the bases?

Actually, the wizkids base has an indented area where the movement template fits in, so yes you do lose a little distance.

I think I finally understand after re-reading Katman's post. The wizkids ones are the same footprint, thus the indent in them "cuts into" the base thus artifically "shortening" the template, I guess to keep the lip going around the base to form the indent from expanding the base footprint?

I think the wiz kids ones have the edge that the template sits against at the same place, but the protruding edges on either side move the corners forward by a little bit (the distance of a nub.)

So it doesn't mess with movement, but does mess with range.

Am I wrong?

I think the wiz kids ones have the edge that the template sits against at the same place, but the protruding edges on either side move the corners forward by a little bit (the distance of a nub.)

So it doesn't mess with movement, but does mess with range.

Am I wrong?

I feel like that's exactly what they'd do instead if this consideration was made. To be what, less than 5% easier to hit as opposed to shortening movement? Seems more viable. Either way, doesn't immensely matter to me and doubt it'll be what decides games with any frequency.

Love 'em!

I have more, but these are from this month's Collection Diary.

Love 'em!

I have more, but these are from this month's Collection Diary.

Holy crap. And X-wing minis go right on them, more or less?

Yes and you can even use the colored or clear pins. however for Huge ships you need to make some new connection points. I am redoing all of my stands to be rotary and metal so the pegs do not matter really.

The other thing that I love about these badass bases is the colors. Red for Rebels, Green for Empire, Yellow for Scum, Blue for Jedi, Black for Sith, and Purple for my own pirate faction.

So in games Darth will be on a badass black base, while Luke will be on a cool blue base... say.

These work faction perfect for all of my STAW ships too of course. All of the Federation are on Blue, Klingons are on Red and so forth.