Nebulon B Frigate

By yoink101, in Star Wars: Armada

I know that Empire Strikes Back, the rebels have a nebulon b frigate. It was a ship produced by just drive yards for the empire. The rebels just "commandeered" a few. I really hope that they release an imperial version

While I'm complaning, the cr-90 is in relatively the same boat.

I would love to see the Imperials get the Neb but I think it's just not in the cards for us :( it's to closly associated with the Rebels and might cause some confusion.

I would love to see the Imperials get the Neb but I think it's just not in the cards for us :( it's to closly associated with the Rebels and might cause some confusion.

Could always slap imperial grey on it and give it some imperial crew and loadouts and ta da....Imperial Nebulon B

Nothing is stopping you from using it in casual games as an imperial ship.

The base has firing and shielding arcs divided by turbolaser beams of the appropriate color, red for Rebels and green for Imps. Changing out the base to Imp green and maybe lose the red paint stripe. Seems it would be clear to me.

Nothing is stopping you from using it in casual games as an imperial ship.

Totally! I will be. I figure that having titles like: Tyranny and Suffering are more appropriate for imperial ships though. I'm sure the rebels will also commandeer a VSD someday as well

Nothing is stopping you from using it in casual games as an imperial ship.

Totally! I will be. I figure that having titles like: Tyranny and Suffering are more appropriate for imperial ships though. I'm sure the rebels will also commandeer a VSD someday as well

We will never let those rebel scum steal our ships! They only allegedly claim to steal some of our less essential ships that we are 100 percent totally positive were decommissioned.

The Errant Venture would make for a cool Rebel version of a, what is it, a Vic? Make it the same model, paint it red, and fielding it comes with mandatory title card.

Errant Venture is an Imperial-class :)

I will definitely be using Imperial Neb-B's in casual or scenario games. They were specifically deisgned to fight against the Rebels, so it's only fair!

Speaking of the Errant Venture I wonder if it would be viable to field Imp Class Star Destroyers for the Rebels. I always like the idea of those triangles of doom fighting for the good guys:)

Speaking of the Errant Venture I wonder if it would be viable to field Imp Class Star Destroyers for the Rebels. I always like the idea of those triangles of doom fighting for the good guys:)

A rebel star destroyer is a triangle of hope, not doom!

Abide by the jedi code!

:P

I doubt we'll see Star Destroyers for the Rebs. Balance aside (and that is a very big issue here), the Rebels simply didnt have any. They didnt capture their first SD's until after they became the New Republic :)

2 were captured at the end of the battle of Endor.

Another ( Freedom ) defected during the bacta War against Ysian Isaerd. they also captured the SSD Lusankya

The idea of Reb / New Republic SD's appears to be one of time period.

Based on the number of folks focusing on Imps, we may see a lot of post-Endor fights between Imperial Warlords

2 were captured at the end of the battle of Endor.

Another ( Freedom ) defected during the bacta War against Ysian Isaerd. they also captured the SSD Lusankya

Rebel Alliance was dissolved after Endor....technically the 2 captured there were first part of the Alliance of Free Planets, then the New Republic. And the Freedom and Lusankya were both straight up taken by the New Republic....they Alluance hadn't existed for more than 3 years by that point.

I agree that the Imperials should have Nebulon Bs, and I also agree that FFG are not likely to give them to us, so we'll have to homebrew it if it's going to happen.

Wasn't the Errant Venture a Scum ship, rather than a Rebel ship, though?

I agree that the Imperials should have Nebulon Bs, and I also agree that FFG are not likely to give them to us, so we'll have to homebrew it if it's going to happen.

Wasn't the Errant Venture a Scum ship, rather than a Rebel ship, though?

The Errant Venture was pretty much a rebel ship, it's Captain didn't owe allegiance to the Alliance/Rebellion/Republic, but he did consistently aid them.

Booster Terrik makes much more sense as a Rebel than Boba Fett does as an Imp. Fett aids the Empire, never helps the Rebellion (he only helps decades later during Vong War and Second Galactic Civil War), but he isn't really Imperial, plus he never dogfights alongside any Imps, only (very, very occasionally) other Scum.

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I agree that the Imperials should have Nebulon Bs, and I also agree that FFG are not likely to give them to us, so we'll have to homebrew it if it's going to happen.

Wasn't the Errant Venture a Scum ship, rather than a Rebel ship, though?

The Errant Venture was pretty much a rebel ship, it's Captain didn't owe allegiance to the Alliance/Rebellion/Republic, but he did consistently aid them.

Booster Terrik makes much more sense as a Rebel than Boba Fett does as an Imp. Fett aids the Empire, never helps the Rebellion (he only helps decades later during Vong War and Second Galactic Civil War), but he isn't really Imperial, plus he never dogfights alongside any Imps, only (very, very occasionally) other Scum.

Well, from an Imperial perspective I'm tempted to agree with you. Rebels and smugglers are all lawless thugs who undermine the right and proper order of the Galaxy. Bounty hunters, while still in the private sector, still provide a valuable service to civilized society.

Where in the current canon, the old EU is not necessarily canon now, does it say that the nebulon B is an imperial ship?

For all we know now, the nebulon B cruisers are nothing more than medical frigates.

Now, that being said, I don't think that will be the case, but it could be possible.

Much of the stuff we know is not necessarily true now. Read my signature. There is NOTHING in the movies, television shows or the few books and comics that are considered canon that mention the nebulon b, not to mention a plethora of other things, that could possibly change.

Where in the current canon, the old EU is not necessarily canon now, does it say that the nebulon B is an imperial ship?

For all we know now, the nebulon B cruisers are nothing more than medical frigates.

Now, that being said, I don't think that will be the case, but it could be possible.

Much of the stuff we know is not necessarily true now. Read my signature. There is NOTHING in the movies, television shows or the few books and comics that are considered canon that mention the nebulon b, not to mention a plethora of other things, that could possibly change.

Very good point. At least there is evidence that the CR80/CR90 can run with the Imperials, as it was a Republic ship...

I would love to see the Imperials get the Neb but I think it's just not in the cards for us :( it's to closly associated with the Rebels and might cause some confusion.

That was one of the things I loved about the Pocketmodels TCG. It may have had a lot of flaws but it included things like Imperial CR90s and Neb-Bs. In fact Imperial Neb-Bs outnumbered Rebel Neb-Bs two to one, or thee to one in a way. The only Rebel Neb-B was Redemption while the Empire had Warspite and Harasser, with Harrasser representing one ship from the two frigate Harasser group. I always hoped that there would be more Imperial CR90s and Rebel Neb-Bs, plus some rebel MC80s after the Clone Wars expansion arc was completed but that arc was never finished.

And FFG goes by the Legends continuity where most models of Imperial capital ship smaller then Imperial Star Destroyers have at least a few representatives in the Alliance fleet, except for those that only appeared in one or two sources. Plus the RPG states that a few Victories ended up in rebel hands.

Oh and Neb-Bs being created to fight the Alliance has been retroconned. Now they first entered service a few months after the Clone Wars and long before the Alliance formed. Hell I think that even the Lancer has been retroconned to pre-date the Alliance now

Ugh. The eu was a mess before the movies.

On the bright side, throwing out the eu gave my gaming group an idea. We are a few sessions in redoing the prequel trilogy from the perspective of a group of recent Jedi knights and their mercenary companions, using the force and destiny rules. Everything we collectively hated about the movies is just not there! It's awesome!

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Sounds fun even if I like the Clone Wars era EU much more then I like the canon Cone Wars material.

I was part of a campaign that started shortly after ROTS came out which basically threw everything both EU and canon about the Clone Wars out the window. It ended with the establishment of the Empire in 38 or 39 BBY after the Clone Wars. And the use of the plural form of war was correct in this setting. The first started with a small Outer Rim imperium armed with an Army of Clones and highly advanced starfighters declaring war on the Republic, and the Hutts eventually allied with the Imperium. (The Imperium outsourced all of its capital ships from neutral or Hutt yards other then ones captured from the Republic but most of the firms which later manufactured fighters for the Alliance were Imperium controlled.)

Then there was a treaty and a peace which lasted more then a year. Palpatine was discovered to be a Sith during the period and driven into exile where he amassed forces and plotted his return to power. Then the new Chancellor was overthrown by an alliance of the Senate and the Jedi for being too closely allied to the Imperium's leaderships. He fled to his homeworld, which was a major warship and fghter production center and called for all loyal forces to rally to him sparking a civil war which turned into a second Clone War as the Imperium allied with the deposed Chancellor. Then when both sides were weakened Palpatine struck...

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Boy do I know that feeling. Gave up posting on my phone a few weeks back for that reason, then on my tablet because it would never do quotes correctly. Now I only even check the forum from my PC because otherwise I can't seem to help at least trying (unsuccessfuly) to reply to something.

I think for scenario play which is what most interests me about this game I will definitely be inclined to have imperial forces rolling an occasional Neb-B or a few corvettes. I also see the potential for lists with rebel forces running a VSD under some limited circumstances. Tournament play though needs to have tighter limits though so that balancing and meta game aspects are within reason.

Now back to scenarios I already envision playing some epic reenactments of some of the TIE fighter pc game missions (specifically the campaigns where an imperial fleet joins the rebels and you see a lot of imp vs imp missions).

One particular hope I have is that FFG takes the time to make a modest expansion box with several non military ships to provide scenario players with some decent models rather than tokens. Specifically a few freighters and civilian transports would be really appreciated. With that it would be relatively easy to set up convoy missions with either Imps or rebels escorting the convoy. Beyond that it would be relatively simple to setup raids on a resupplying or refitting capital ship, or planetary invasions with the transports being troop ships. All of this would be posible with tokens I suppose, but using tokens as standins seems to take something away from games like these. I sincerely hope FFG puts some effort into filling this need, but should they opt not too I'll simply get to work modding some ships from some other games so I can have something other than tokens.