Sorry for another bunch of stupid questions:

1) Shadow dragon ability Shadow says "A hero adjacent to this monster that declares an attack must spend 1 or the attack is considered a miss". We played nearly whole shadow rune campaign thinking that this works only on adjacent heroes who attacks dragon itself. But now, after reading exact wording in english, we are suddenly not so sure about it. Does this ability means, that while adjacent to dragon, heroes have to spend 1 even when attacking different figures, not necessarily dragon ?

2) Barghest's ability Night Stalker says " If attacked by any non-adjacent hero, this monster may add 1 brown die to its defense roll." Does this effect trigger if conjurer attacks with one of his images wich stands adjacent to barghest? Image counts as figure but actual attacker is a hero who stands far away, so in my opinion OL should add 1 brown die, is this correct?

Thank you

1. Yes it does, they have to spend a surge against any target when adjacent to the dragon, regardless of what the target is. The idea is that by being adjacent, they are wrapped in shadows that makes performing accurate attacks difficult.

2. I'd have to look at the exact wording again (don't have my cards in front of me), but if it's the image making the attack with the conjurer's weapon then he is adjacent. If it's the hero making an attack from the conjured image, it would only be adjacent if the hero is treated as the image for the purpose of the attack, rather than simply measuring range from the figure's location.

If the conjurer is using the image tokjen to generate the attack, the OL would not add the brown die as the skill states that the range and line of sight is determined from the image.

If range = 0, then you are adjacent.

If the conjurer is using the image tokjen to generate the attack, the OL would not add the brown die as the skill states that the range and line of sight is determined from the image.

If range = 0, then you are adjacent.

I must interject.

1) Agree with whitewing on "shadow/"

2) I disagree about the conjurer. It is the conjurer performing an attack, using the image token to measure range and line of sight. While the conjurer uses the image tokens for targeting, she is not considered to occupy their spaces, and she is very definitely the one performing the attack.Therefore, it is the conjurer (not the token) who must be adjacent in order for nightstalker not to trigger, I believe. On a technical note- and sorry to be picky- but adjacent is 1 space away.

The cool thing about this (in my eyes) is that the conjurer's tokens are actually not great for attacking barghests, but really useful for attacking shadow dragons, as they don't care if they're adjacent to the dragon, as long as the conjurer isn't.

Oh, thats interesting. Thank you guys. I tend to agree with Zaltyre on the second.

Our OL now will try to position Zachareth near the dragon-boss in final quest =D

Grisban want to have a few words with that pesky baron since interlude)

So, as many of the regular posters know, I have been playing this game a long time ...

And now I am shocked to have two regular posters (Whitewing and Zaltyre), play "Shadow" in a way that we never have. Much like the op, we have always played that the need for the surge to perform an attack when next to a Shadow Dragon was only if you were actually attacking the dragon.

I agree that the wording "A hero adjacent to this monster that declares an attack must spend 1 or the attack is considered a miss." only mentions " declaring an attack", and not on whom the attack is targeted. We have always assumed that this implied that it was targeted against the figure with the Shadow ability.

I am not saying we are right, and that Whitewing/Zaltyre are wrong. I am simply really surprised. This is one I am going to take the time to ask FFG about, as I am somewhat shocked/disconcerted by the consensus here.

Mostly due to the fact that it would somewhat invalidate the results of MANY games we have played.

Just goes to show that no matter how much you play games like these, you can always learn something. It is a perfect example of why I love these forums and this community.

I recall a moment many campaigns ago when I realized that the rule a friend of mine used about rolling defense dice after the attacker had spent surges was a house rule. It very much altered combat, as conditions were a very risky thing to spend surges on. That being said, it made combat very exciting. Ever since I bought the game, I've been playing pretty much RAW.

I just received a very quick response from FFG's Kara.

She confirms that any hero adjacent to a figure with the shadow ability would have to roll and spend a surge to allow an attack to hit, not matter what the targeted figure is ...

I have officially learned something new today. Now to inform my pesky heroes that some of their victories are tainted.

glad to see that this discussion was fruitfull not for me alone =)