Hi,

I'd really appreciate a ruling on the below:

Journey of Repentence reads R: Before your opponent commits one of your foundations, commit this foundation instead.

If my opponent uses the response on Xi Mei (which commits a card in any staging area), do I need to wait for the target to be declared before responding with Journey of Repentence?

When Zi Mei's ability is declared it can potentially target an asset or character, however Journey of Repentence has different wording to all similar cards which have previously been printed in that it does not respond to the ability being played and instead responds before a specific type of card is committed.

Equally, responses are normally played between a cost and an effect but this one appears to be playable in the middle of an effect (after a target has been chosen but before the foundation is committed)?

The reason this is relevant is because, depending on the timing, Journey of Repentence may or may not be able to prevent a character or asset being committed.

Thanks for your help.

If your opponent plays an ability that can commit a foundation you may play the R on Journy of Repentance. As after they have chosen the target the ability has already resolved and you missed the opportunity to respond. So yes even if your opponent was going to play the ability to commit your character or an asset, so long as that ability could have commited a foundation Journy of Repentance can respond to it.

Hope that helps

Speedsta said:

Cost is R Commit 1 foundation.

Once your opponent has done that, because of the potential to commit a foundation, you would commit JoR instead. This is similar to the Red Lotus vs. Amy's assistance ruling.

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Journey doesnt have "R: after your opponent plays an ability that commits your foundation" its "R: before your opponent commits a foundation"

usually Rs are responded to an ability being PLAYED..but in this case it almost seems like the window would be while the ability is resolving....

i understand if it functionally was designed to work like lotus/amys, but why the change in wording out of curiosity? Just an anomoly like the whole foil vs non foil CCvaulting thing?

Thanks for the ruling, the quick response is appreciated.

@ Smazzurco, the reason I posted the thread was the same reason as your post above - the timing on the card seems really strange so I assume it was an oversight in playtesting or something. Torn Hero came out in the same set and has the usual timing on its ability so FFG don't seem to have changed the ability templating.

As far as i am aware Journey Responds after a foundation would be committed, changing the target. On the other hand Torn Hero and Soul Calibur respond to the playing of the ability. So you cant R with Journey until a foundation would be committed.