Agreed. You can see in a lot of sources that small "freighters" like the Millenium Falcon, Outrider, Ebon hawk and Twilight all seem capable of manouvring on a par with snubfighters.

As to why the designers thought that was necessary, as opposed to better cost effectiveness or increased cargo capacity..... best not to ask. After all, these ships are designed for Totally Legitimate Purposes Only^TM....

But there are companies out there that would in fact offer a collectors edition of a unit that has better stats than the normal one.

I think your effort here was wasted. The reference just wizzed by these kids.

I see what you did there.

There are 2 types of defense in table top games. Resilient and Damage Reduction.

Resilient can take a lot of damage but after time and keep wearing them off they will eventually fall. You will know how many hits it often takes to remove one.

Damage reduction reduces the effectiveness of an attack. More often than not this is tied to some randomizing mechanic in order to keep it from being too powerful. So often according to the laws of probability if enough damage is thrown at it the damage reduction will fail. However probability is a fickle thing so some times it fails immediately allowing all the damage through destroying the unit. Some times if works miracles and becomes invincible.

Does anyone else think evasion dice seem somewhat inconsistent? I mean why do Y-Wings and B-Wings have only one dice to defend with but clearly bulkier and less agile ships like the Millennium Falcon or the Outrider have 2? Yes, they are sluggish by fighter standards but to say a light freighter is harder to hit is ludicrous. The Y-Wing has such a sleek profile too. Unless you are above or below one, it's profile is a narrow line. And from directly in front or behind it's more compact still. The Millennium Falcon is practically shaped like a giant target. This new Aggressor is another example. It's profile is infinitely more larger and hittable than a small, wedge-shaped A-Wing and it can't realistically be as nimble. How does it's ability to evade fire even compare?

The Falcon and Outrider are heavily modified freighters, basically hotrods with some serious time and love poured into them to get the absolute most out of those spaceframes.

They still only get 1 and 2 defence.

The Aggressor is a purpose-built combat ship, NOT a freighter. The Falcon has a single power core. The Aggressor has 3. The Aggressor has one of the main ion engines from a kriffing NEBULON B, which uses 7 of them at 300metres. The Aggressor is 20metres. The Aggressor has variable geometry arms with vectored maneuvering thrusters.

3 defence is perfectly fine for it.

Look at most of the maneuvering the Falcon does in the starwars movies. While the pilot uses the ship perfectly, it can't roll worth a ****.

And you guys are forgetting a huge factor in how easy something is to hit. It's not just agility and speed, it's PROFILE. How wide is the ship? Is it thin as a needle? Tactically shaped? Or is it a big giant target shaped circle like the Millennium Falcon?

Yeah but we do have a large ship coming with 3 agility!!!!!!

this is explained very well on wookiepedia. in essence, because it is a droid pilot, he doesn't have to worry about inertia. The ship is therefore free to perform maneuvers which would easily kill a living pilot. the ship is designed with this in mind and is capable of far more than your average mid sized freighter. also, note that it isn't that fast, just very manouverable.

That's what pilot skill and pilot abilities are for. Ship base stats are supposed to represent the ship by itself.

yeah but ANY fighter should be WAAAAAAY more maneuverable than ANY freighter... I don't care how hopped up it is. at its core its still a freighter!! however that said i CAN see it having waaay more shields and hull...

Precisely

Y-wings are sluggish by FIGHTER standards. The slowest fight is still going to be flying circles around a relatively agile freighter.

yeah but ANY fighter should be WAAAAAAY more maneuverable than ANY freighter... I don't care how hopped up it is. at its core its still a freighter!! however that said i CAN see it having waaay more shields and hull...

True in theory, but we have a Han Solo and Han Solo clone wrapped up on the Frieghter's side of the playing field

Given his performance in the empire strikes back, where he outmaneuvered some two star destroyers and god knows how many ties even through an asteroid field, I'd say there's some justification for that agility score

Again, that's reflected in pilot skill.

More things

TIE Pilot hit the nail on the head, upthread: there are exactly four baskets in which to place ships. This is not a system that's capable of the kind of resolution you seem to be looking for.

Agility probably has to do with more than just the profile of the ship. Maneuverability and the ships computers probably have something to play into it.

That would imply that the restriction on maneuverability is the g-force stresses on the pilot. But I think it is actually the mass of the ship itself that is maneuvered.

Example It takes a cargo hauler (in real life) something like 5 miles to stop. If put the crew in G-suits that isn't going to reduce that distance at all.

If 3 dice of dodging isn't going to hurt a human in an A-wing I don't see why it would kill one in an Aggressor.

On a related note: Referring to physics in Wookiepedia is pretty silly to start with. Star Wars clearly has anti-gravity and so can shield human bodies from the forces of acceleration as indicated by the fact that the whole crew of the Falcon isn't turned to goo when it jumps to hyperspace.

But your example doesnt come near the abilities of the aggressor. Yeah, it may take a cargo hauler a long time to stop, and having the crew in g suits wouldnt shorten that distance, but what if you put rocket boosters on the front the cargo hauler to get it to stop faster, and even go faster in reverse than it could forward? A complete change in velocity in fractions of seconds would kill the crew, maybe even with g suits. The aggressor may be a "cargo hauler" but it has far more manuverable capabilities than your average cargo hauler.

even in real life there are fighter jets that are more manuverable than the human body can handle. If we stuck a droid pilot in those fighters they could out perform a human pilot in the same style airplane.

Ig88 doesnt need to worry about g forces in any direction. Thats why it is so evasive. A wing pilots have to take into account how much their physical body can take. If you stuck IG88 in an A wing, it would probablly produce even better evasive results than the aggressor.

And the aggressor isnt a frieghter, its a freaking man eating war ship!!!

yeah but ANY fighter should be WAAAAAAY more maneuverable than ANY freighter... I don't care how hopped up it is. at its core its still a freighter!! however that said i CAN see it having waaay more shields and hull...

It's not a freighter. Not every large ship is a freighter. The YTs are frieghters, the HWK is tenously a frieghter (it's a bit small for it and its lore is messed up). The Firespray is a patrol craft and the Aggressor is technically called an "assault fighter."