Lol All of the Propieters , law , and mayor conspired to kill Sherrif Duncan and hide his body except for Sarah Belding...Sarah hints to it by saying a soul is unrest in an unmarked grave...Needless to say that The Stranger never says his name ; but it is clear that his name was Marshall Jim Duncan...It is a fitting revenge fest complete with humiliation and despair fear and loathing...

True, but i like it that they only heavily imply it rather than flat out stating it.

Oh yeah , when the stranger starts picking off the villains one by one in the burning village, I almost felt sorry for them. And when he leaves the town is just wrecked.

I gotta go with the rest of the folks on this one. Clint is the dead sheriff back for revenge, not just a cowboy with no name. Great film, but I still prefer the very similar role he plays in Pale Rider, just my personal taste there.

Even though it's not a western but has been used as inspiration for both westerns and Star Wars, how about Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai. Another TV show that comes to mind is Wild, Wild West with Robert Conrad playing James West, Secret Service agent during the Grant presidentcy.

The magnificent seven is almost a copy of Kutosawa's masterpiece. so I'll accept it. Great movie.

The series was good. The movie was- a good inspiration for your deadlands RPG sessions, let's leave it at that.

Another great one, Fistful Of Dollar, is based off of Yojimbo.

Anything with The Duke. I'm a huge John Wayne fan. My favorite? It's a split between True Grit and The Shootist.

Rather disappointing that nobody mentioned The Long Riders.

Nott a big fan of The Caradine brothers ; and the slow motion ambush was really the only good part of the whole movie...It was unique having actual brothers playing brothers...I did like the ending epitath...It was a Wonderment...

Rather disappointing that nobody mentioned The Long Riders.

I cannot believe I forgot my favorite western while discussing my favorite westerns, some days the train never gets any traction.

As far as John Wayne goes, Red River is still my favorite. He Duke as a driven man out for revenge against his adopted son, come on. How often do we get the Duke as the bad guy?

Oh. Ride with the devil not exactly a western but a fantastic film. More of the Civil war sub genre but related. And Outlaw Josey Wales of course.
Seven Samurai was absolutely brilliant. I have made it my lifes work to collect all the variants of the story *L*

I prefer the modern ones, remakes like 3:10 to Yuma and True Grit. Got a soft spot for Tombstone.

My absolute favorite is The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford—and on no account of Brad Pitt, who was kind of a buffoon in that movie, but instead for Casey Affleck, who was an acting titan, absolutely defined that movie. Also the gorgeous cinematography and haunting soundtrack courtesy of Nick Cave and Warren Ellis.

Runner up would be Seraphim Falls, which I think was sorely underrated.

I prefer the modern ones, remakes like 3:10 to Yuma and True Grit. Got a soft spot for Tombstone.

My absolute favorite is The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford—and on no account of Brad Pitt, who was kind of a buffoon in that movie, but instead for Casey Affleck, who was an acting titan, absolutely defined that movie. Also the gorgeous cinematography and haunting soundtrack courtesy of Nick Cave and Warren Ellis.

Runner up would be Seraphim Falls, which I think was sorely underrated.

I really don't know how to ask this without sounding like a total d-bag, but are you a teenager or something? I know I'm just a grumpy old man and all, but all these modern western versus the originals make me think of comparing the original Star Wars trilogy to the prequels (not that I'm trying to be anywhere near on topic here), and proclaiming George finally got it right.

Seven Samurai and Yojimbo are perfect films made by one of the greatest filmmaker s ever, Seven Samurai and Fistfull of Dollars are good and fun films, and they're still worlds better than the modern Western remakes.

Mission complete, d-bag level ten reached!

I prefer the modern ones, remakes like 3:10 to Yuma and True Grit. Got a soft spot for Tombstone.

My absolute favorite is The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford—and on no account of Brad Pitt, who was kind of a buffoon in that movie, but instead for Casey Affleck, who was an acting titan, absolutely defined that movie. Also the gorgeous cinematography and haunting soundtrack courtesy of Nick Cave and Warren Ellis.

Runner up would be Seraphim Falls, which I think was sorely underrated.

I really don't know how to ask this without sounding like a total d-bag, but are you a teenager or something? I know I'm just a grumpy old man and all, but all these modern western versus the originals make me think of comparing the original Star Wars trilogy to the prequels (not that I'm trying to be anywhere near on topic here), and proclaiming George finally got it right.

Seven Samurai and Yojimbo are perfect films made by one of the greatest filmmaker s ever, Seven Samurai and Fistfull of Dollars are good and fun films, and they're still worlds better than the modern Western remakes.

Mission complete, d-bag level ten reached!

No, I'm not comparing here. I don't necessarily prefer the remake westerns over the originals; in most cases I simply haven't seen the originals. I just like modern cinematography. I actually love the Star Wars prequels, maybe in part because I don't compare them to anything. For me, it's additional Star Wars, and I'm glad to have that.

But no, I am 35. I have a teenager.

Besides, the Coen Brothers version of True Grit is not a remake of the John Wayne version, they went back to the original book and made their movie based off of that.

You wouldn't call the Jackson Lord of the Rings a remake of the Bakshi movie would you? .

Well at least nobody said they liked The Lone Ranger (2013)

Come to think of it, I also really enjoyed Rango, even tough that is about Johnny depp playing a chameleon...

I liked the Lone Ranger! It's not a bad movie. It's been marketed terribly, but it's not a bad movie.

They should've marketed it as a family adventure movie like Indiana Jones, Goonies, Star Wars. They should've aimed for the 10 to 12 year olds with a bunch of matinee showings. It'd have killed then and not been critically panned.

Same goes for John Carter by the way.

I liked the Lone Ranger! It's not a bad movie. It's been marketed terribly, but it's not a bad movie.

They should've marketed it as a family adventure movie like Indiana Jones, Goonies, Star Wars. They should've aimed for the 10 to 12 year olds with a bunch of matinee showings. It'd have killed then and not been critically panned.

Same goes for John Carter by the way.

Thing with the lone ranger is, it was a bit to long, and all the action was at the end. I will give it points for having canibalism in a Disney movie!

Yeah no, not gonna agree on john carter (of mars) i think that's the first movie i was hyped for and then hated it when i saw the trailer. g0ddamn p1sspoor CGI... and i get that they based the look of mars on what the planet actualy looks like, rather than lurid red sands, but this does give me the feeling they shot the whole thing in a desert and i'm now watching prince of time.*

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*think about that for a minute: I have no problem believing in tatooine, while i know that was shot in tunisia, but for John Carter i can't bring myself to think of those locations as being on mars.

But that's the whole problem of course, they hyped it, but to the wrong crowd. Should've been hyped to the ten year olds. I'd've loved seeing that when I was 10, 12. Would've been awesome!

Now I was just thinking "oh look, it's McNulty, what the F did he do?".

I agree. As a kid you have the imagination to fill in the gaps.

And the odd thing is, i love watching those 50s cheap ass monster/scifi movies with the cheesy effects! As long as they are practical effects i have no problems with them. Plan 9 from outer space? yeah love it!

And when it comes to modern tokusatsu series Kamen rider, Super sentai (power rangers), those series have OBVIOUS CGI effects, and thats fine by me, only adds to the charm!

But if you put in one slighty bad rendered thing in a hollywood movie I will notice and complain about it.

I gues i have diffrent standards for diffrent movies...

Still there was no reason why john carter and lone ranger should cost 200 mil each to make. No wonder they lost tons of money on them...

Lone Ranger wasnt terrible. But the tone of it was wildly uneven folowing the massacre of a tribe with slapstick hijinx. There is a reason Jar Jar wasnt in the last half of Revenge.
As for John carter. I liked it a lot. Some flaws in the design work but still highly enjoyable.
All this western/SF talk is making me want to go watch Hawk the Slayer and Battle beyond the stars

Lone Ranger wasnt terrible. But the tone of it was wildly uneven folowing the massacre of a tribe with slapstick hijinx. There is a reason Jar Jar wasnt in the last half of Revenge.

As for John carter. I liked it a lot. Some flaws in the design work but still highly enjoyable.

All this western/SF talk is making me want to go watch Hawk the Slayer and Battle beyond the stars

Put me in the mood to go watch Marshall Bravestarr.

Also:

For that matter the best animated series to come out of the US (sort of) was a space western. And badly stolen versions of several of the ships ended up showing up in the EU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piyOYvxIOuU

I love Open Range. Kevin Costner and Sam Elliot are totally awesome. Clint Eastwood's westerns are my favorite though, Pale Rider, Two Mules for Sister Sara, The Good The Bad And The Ugly, A Fist Full of Dollars, For A Few Dollars More, Hang 'Em High etc. Also, comedy Westerns are awesome like, Support Your Local Sherriff, Blazing Saddles, City Slickers 1&2, and The Three Amigos.

Someone also mentioned They Died With Their Boots On, which is another great movie.

SO anybody know of any other variants on the Seven Samurai story?
I have

Magnificent seven

Hawk the slayer (fantasy)

Battle beyond the stars (space opera)

World Gone Wild (post apocalypse)

Ironclad (medieval)

I know there is an anime variation as well but i still think im missing one

Samurai 7

Three amigos

For a few more

SO anybody know of any other variants on the Seven Samurai story?

I have

Magnificent seven

Hawk the slayer (fantasy)

Battle beyond the stars (space opera)

World Gone Wild (post apocalypse)

Ironclad (medieval)

I know there is an anime variation as well but i still think im missing one

Would "The Untouchables" count? (crime drama)

Maybe so. I hadnt thought of that one. But im thinking things that were more specific. the cold gunfighter, the drunkard, the laconic knife/sword/bow man the noble hero etc all the 7 archetypes

I'm surprised all you Firefly fans didn't list Briscoe County Jr.

Saw this subject and actually came in to mention Briscoe County Jr.

As for more standard westerns, no love for Two Mules for Sister Sara?