So, 3PO's card says when you roll agility dice, you may guess and if correct, you add a result. I know you can guess 0, get a blank, add a result from C3PO, and then lone wolf reroll for a possible second evade.

But can you use C3PO on the LW reroll? The following instance came up earlier where I was shooting chewy at R3 through a rock, so he was rolling 3 agility. As such, the defender didn't activate C3PO, but gambled that he'd get at least one blank, and then he used C3PO on the LW reroll of a single die.

I guess it comes down to - is a reroll the same as a roll?

Well, 3P0's card says "once per round, before you roll 1 or more defense dice...", so if he didn't use him on the initial roll, I see no reason why he can't use him on the Lone Wolf reroll.

My gut reaction is that a reroll is not a separate roll, but part of the initial roll. So no.

So in the example you provide, he can choose to use 3PO before he rolls defense dice, but once he has the opportunity to call 3PO has passed and he must wait till he is required to roll defense die again.

But the reroll is still rolling a defense die which still fits his trigger condition.

The FAQ talks about C-3PO and a reroll from Flight Instructor. I guess the same applies if you replace Flight Instructor with Lone Wolf.

You beat me to the question Khyros.

I think you can use C3P0 on a reroll. Logically all rerolls are rolls, but not all rolls are rerolls, right? The situation only comes up when you are rolling more than 1 evade die. You want to hedge your bet. You are rolling 2 greens, so you don't want to guess 0, what if you roll 2 evades? So you wait to see if either are blank, and if one is, you guess 0 on that reroll.

Does my logic above hold. Are all rerolls, rolls?

The Flight Instructor Entry says you may guess -> roll -> add C3P0 evade -> reroll with Flight Instructor.

But, can you -> roll -> guess -> reroll -> add C3P0 evades?

Can you guess on the reroll?

A reroll does not count as a roll. I honestly still hate that ruling, but it's well established at this point.

HLC is our go-to precedent for this. When you reroll attack dice, it doesn't trigger the HLC text again. Same would go for C-3PO.

A reroll does not count as a roll. I honestly still hate that ruling, but it's well established at this point.

HLC is our go-to precedent for this. When you reroll attack dice, it doesn't trigger the HLC text again. Same would go for C-3PO.

I think HLC is referring to step 2 Roll Attack Dice, not the actual act of rolling the dice. Is there other examples?

C-3PO specificaly state rolling 1 or more defence dice and thus is not referring to step 5, as rolling 0 dice is still rolling defence dice. Thus I believe you can use C-3PO on rerolles. The description of rerolling dice also state that you pick then up and roll them again. So a reroll is a roll if you ask me.

A reroll does not count as a roll. I honestly still hate that ruling, but it's well established at this point.

HLC is our go-to precedent for this. When you reroll attack dice, it doesn't trigger the HLC text again. Same would go for C-3PO.

I think HLC is referring to step 2 Roll Attack Dice, not the actual act of rolling the dice. Is there other examples?

C-3PO specificaly state rolling 1 or more defence dice and thus is not referring to step 5, as rolling 0 dice is still rolling defence dice. Thus I believe you can use C-3PO on rerolles. The description of rerolling dice also state that you pick then up and roll them again. So a reroll is a roll if you ask me.

I know that C3P0 can work off of the Lando Crew.

What interests me is not using the Re-roll to fix the result from C3P0. I don't think that works.

What interests me is using C3P0 to guess the Re-Roll, as 1 die is more easily guessed than 2.

I think HLC is referring to step 2 Roll Attack Dice, not the actual act of rolling the dice. Is there other examples?

C-3PO specificaly state rolling 1 or more defence dice and thus is not referring to step 5, as rolling 0 dice is still rolling defence dice. Thus I believe you can use C-3PO on rerolles. The description of rerolling dice also state that you pick then up and roll them again. So a reroll is a roll if you ask me.

HLC doesn't refer to the step. There are plenty of game abilities which reference a step, or only function during a given step/phase. The HLC text doesn't use any of them. We also went through all the same "reroll tells you to roll them" stuff with the HLC, and it didn't hold.

The only way for the HLC to work as it does is if a reroll is not actually a roll. Like it or not, that's the precedent we've got, and barring a ruling to the contrary it would apply to defense dice as well. I don't see any reason to think that "roll 1 or more" imposes different trigger or timing than just "roll".

Yeah HLC establishes pretty clearly that a roll and reroll are not the same thing according to the rules.

Okay, so it's settled (at least into the FAQ says otherwise). Due to the wording on HLC, "Immediately after rolling your attack dice," and the FAQ that allows dice reroll modifications to keep the crit results, C3PO does NOT work off of a reroll, since a reroll is DIFFERENT than the initial roll. This would apply to Lone Wolf, Ibby's ability, and flight instructor.