Cancelling Surge Question

By Slash Macbain, in Star Wars: Imperial Assault

A quick question,

A player rolls their attack ... gets a few Surges ... should the opposing player be rolling Defence at this point "Before" the attacker has decided what to spend their surges on?

At the minute we are playing it as decide surges "then" a player rolls defence ... and naturally the first to go most times is Accuracy ... because if the shot doesn't hit .... all other Surges become pointless and wasted anyway.

this might be the correct way, but it just feels a wrong somehow?

Attacker and Defender roll the dices at the same time:

2.Roll Dice:
The attacker rolls his attack dice at the same time as the defender rolls defense dice (listed under “Defense” on the target figure’s Hero sheet or Deployment card).

And then you apply the defense die(s) first, because:

4.

Apply Modifiers: If players have any effects that gain or remove icons or Accuracy, they are applied at this time. This includes spending evade results to remove surge results. Any surge abilities that provide modifiers are not resolved until step 5.

And then use the surges in step 5. So you were playing it wrong.

ahh Very Good ..... I thought that should be what we were doing, but always nice to have it confirmed

I have a question to add. Let say you are attacking and the surge is used on you to recover health or to give you focus for next time. Can they still cancel that surge or can they cancel your surge if you don’t even roll range?

ahh .. i see you point .. if a Surge isn't actually being used Against them .. can they cancel it?

hmm? i suppose if your rolling at the same time and they have cancelled what they can, if you then want to heal or focus surely you can?

You first roll, then cancel surge and then use the remaining surges. So if no surge is remaining after canceling, then yes they practically have. If one surge is remaining then you can use it as you see fit. The second part is a yes or no. Evades will be used independently of the question if you hit the target or not, so yes they could cancel the surge. But you can not use Focus if you did not hit.

If a figure has the “Focus” keyword, it may become focused after attacking. If the target suffers one or more damage, the attacker becomes Focused after the attack resolves.

Yet you can recover if a surge is remaining.

Some cards use Recover as a keyword. For example “surge Recover 1 damage” allows the figure to spend a surge during an attack to recover 1 damage after resolving the attack. He can recover this damage even if the target of his attack does not suffer any damage.