Unexpected Interactions.

By DraconPyrothayan, in X-Wing

Ok here an unexpected combination:

Captain Oicunn with Palpatine and Ion projector can bumb a ship and stick to it until all hit points are sucked. And still shoot at other targets. For efficient blocking Expert Handling is recommended.

Optionally, to double the effect: Take Daredevil with dauntless title to suck 2 hitpoints per round in exchange for stress.

Palp+Oicunn+ion has been know since the Tooth came out

Lightning reflexes with Kanan Jarrus (crew card) nearby allows a white K/S loop to be done with no stress.

Kanan reads: "Once per round, after a friendly ship at Range 1-2 executes a white manoeuvre, you may remove 1 stress token from that ship."

Lightning Reflexes reads: "After you execute a white or green maneouvre on your dial, you may discard this card to rotate your ship 180°. Then receive 1 stress token after the “Check Pilot Stress” step."

So

Since you pick the order of resolve during the same phase, just pull the LR on a white, gain the stress then trigger Kanan to remove the stress and take your action.

At least that's how I read it. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Looks right to me. The cards both trigger on 'after you execute a maneuver' and you control both so order should be up to you. Note it only works if your initial maneuver is white though, otherwise Kanan can't clear it

Correct, but that one time you use it could clinch you the game! Hardly anyone knows it - let alone see's the interaction between those two cards.

Phantom undocks from ghost. Phantom has LR, Ghost has Kanan. Pull a white maneuver, LR to flip.... Opponent thinking you'll have no ideal shot only to get gunned down from a flank shot....

hehe

If you're really feeling cheeky, toss Leia in there too.

Important to note Leia does nothing for deploying the phantom.

Lightning reflexes with Kanan Jarrus (crew card) nearby allows a white K/S loop to be done with no stress.

Kanan reads: "Once per round, after a friendly ship at Range 1-2 executes a white manoeuvre, you may remove 1 stress token from that ship."

Lightning Reflexes reads: "After you execute a white or green maneouvre on your dial, you may discard this card to rotate your ship 180°. Then receive 1 stress token after the “Check Pilot Stress” step."

So

Since you pick the order of resolve during the same phase, just pull the LR on a white, gain the stress then trigger Kanan to remove the stress and take your action.

At least that's how I read it. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Looks right to me. The cards both trigger on 'after you execute a maneuver' and you control both so order should be up to you. Note it only works if your initial maneuver is white though, otherwise Kanan can't clear it

Correct, but that one time you use it could clinch you the game! Hardly anyone knows it - let alone see's the interaction between those two cards.

Phantom undocks from ghost. Phantom has LR, Ghost has Kanan. Pull a white maneuver, LR to flip.... Opponent thinking you'll have no ideal shot only to get gunned down from a flank shot....

hehe

If you're really feeling cheeky, toss Leia in there too.

Important to note Leia does nothing for deploying the phantom.

I assumed he meant for later turns as using her the same turn as you trigger lightning reflexes is completely useless and pointless.

I assumed he meant for later turns as using her the same turn as you trigger lightning reflexes is completely useless and pointless.

Maybe, I don't know. There is a mistaken thought sometimes that Leia would make a kturn deployment white but that isn't true.

Ok here an unexpected combination:

Captain Oicunn with Palpatine and Ion projector can bumb a ship and stick to it until all hit points are sucked. And still shoot at other targets. For efficient blocking Expert Handling is recommended.

Optionally, to double the effect: Take Daredevil with dauntless title to suck 2 hitpoints per round in exchange for stress.

Palp+Oicunn+ion has been know since the Tooth came out

Isn't there a rule related to Conner Net about removing all ion tokens after moving that prevents this from working?

I assumed he meant for later turns as using her the same turn as you trigger lightning reflexes is completely useless and pointless.

Maybe, I don't know. There is a mistaken thought sometimes that Leia would make a kturn deployment white but that isn't true.

I wish FFG would rule that choosing a maneuver is synonymous with revealing a maneuver. SLAM and bomb and Leia would be so much better.

Ok here an unexpected combination:

Captain Oicunn with Palpatine and Ion projector can bumb a ship and stick to it until all hit points are sucked. And still shoot at other targets. For efficient blocking Expert Handling is recommended.

Optionally, to double the effect: Take Daredevil with dauntless title to suck 2 hitpoints per round in exchange for stress.

Palp+Oicunn+ion has been know since the Tooth came out

And that is a reason not to list it?

Ok here an unexpected combination:

Captain Oicunn with Palpatine and Ion projector can bumb a ship and stick to it until all hit points are sucked. And still shoot at other targets. For efficient blocking Expert Handling is recommended.

Optionally, to double the effect: Take Daredevil with dauntless title to suck 2 hitpoints per round in exchange for stress.

Palp+Oicunn+ion has been know since the Tooth came out

And that is a reason not to list it?

It's not unexpected?

Ok here an unexpected combination:

Captain Oicunn with Palpatine and Ion projector can bumb a ship and stick to it until all hit points are sucked. And still shoot at other targets. For efficient blocking Expert Handling is recommended.

Optionally, to double the effect: Take Daredevil with dauntless title to suck 2 hitpoints per round in exchange for stress.

Palp+Oicunn+ion has been know since the Tooth came out

And that is a reason not to list it?

It's not unexpected?

It's more an unexpected combination than half of the list in the OP.

I hope any Xwing buff is more interesting than a point reduction or adding barrel roll.

Not having a barrel roll isn't the worst thing ever.

X Wings should not have a barrel roll, it is unthematic and lazy. If you want to roll take a B Wing or an attack shuttle.

It may be lazy, but it's not unthematic IMHO.

New one from ARC and Heroes of the Resistance expansions...

swx53-vectored-thrusters.png swx57_spread.png

Black One title has no once per round restriction. Ello or Poe with Vectored thrusters, Black One and PTL can cancel 2 enemy target locks per round. May not happen often enough to be useful in tournament play, but then again, alpha strike lists, Vessery and Omega Leader are going to be everywhere so maybe?

Edited by pickirk01

New one from ARC and Heroes of the Resistance expansions...

swx53-vectored-thrusters.png swx57_spread.png

Black One title has no once per round restriction. Ello or Poe with Vectored thrusters, Black One and PTL can cancel 2 enemy target locks per round. May not happen often enough to be useful in tournament play, but then again, alpha strike lists, Vessery and Omega Leader are going to be every where so maybe?

Or take BB-8 Ptl Poe and take autothrusters or another modification, and dont end up with stress after doing both, and focusing.

But yes, it doesnt seem to have the once per turn/round restriction. Which is nice...well not for Omega Leader, since he is going to be extremly sad when this title comes out.

New one from ARC and Heroes of the Resistance expansions...

swx53-vectored-thrusters.png swx57_spread.png

Black One title has no once per round restriction. Ello or Poe with Vectored thrusters, Black One and PTL can cancel 2 enemy target locks per round. May not happen often enough to be useful in tournament play, but then again, alpha strike lists, Vessery and Omega Leader are going to be every where so maybe?

Or take BB-8 Ptl Poe and take autothrusters or another modification, and dont end up with stress after doing both, and focusing.

But yes, it doesnt seem to have the once per turn/round restriction. Which is nice...well not for Omega Leader, since he is going to be extremly sad when this title comes out.

Edited by Jehovah Netto

New one from ARC and Heroes of the Resistance expansions...

[pictures]

Black One title has no once per round restriction. Ello or Poe with Vectored thrusters, Black One and PTL can cancel 2 enemy target locks per round. May not happen often enough to be useful in tournament play, but then again, alpha strike lists, Vessery and Omega Leader are going to be every where so maybe?

Or take BB-8 Ptl Poe and take autothrusters or another modification, and dont end up with stress after doing both, and focusing.

But yes, it doesnt seem to have the once per turn/round restriction. Which is nice...well not for Omega Leader, since he is going to be extremly sad when this title comes out.

Users of Long Range Sensors are also in big trouble if Black One becomes to popular.

True, but it is unique. That said, I could be a nice piece for a Rebel list. It will be interesting to see how the unrevealed PS 6 and 7 pilots from Heroes play with the title as well.

New one from ARC and Heroes of the Resistance expansions...

[pictures]

Black One title has no once per round restriction. Ello or Poe with Vectored thrusters, Black One and PTL can cancel 2 enemy target locks per round. May not happen often enough to be useful in tournament play, but then again, alpha strike lists, Vessery and Omega Leader are going to be every where so maybe?

Or take BB-8 Ptl Poe and take autothrusters or another modification, and dont end up with stress after doing both, and focusing.

But yes, it doesnt seem to have the once per turn/round restriction. Which is nice...well not for Omega Leader, since he is going to be extremly sad when this title comes out.

Users of Long Range Sensors are also in big trouble if Black One becomes to popular.

True, but it is unique. That said, I could be a nice piece for a Rebel list. It will be interesting to see how the unrevealed PS 6 and 7 pilots from Heroes play with the title as well.

It will be a matter on how their abilites work with everything else, including just being worth thier points (hopefully so!!!).

Search was running a PS9 PtL Poe with BB-8 and the Black One title in the recent Reddit tournament. Though most people focused on the PS9 Heragator as the monster, that Poe was a pain for anyone with a lower PS trying to grab a TL. I know I almost always ruled it out with my Aggressors so as not to waste an action. The potential of wiping out 2 TL per turn is huge.

New one from ARC and Heroes of the Resistance expansions...

swx53-vectored-thrusters.png swx57_spread.png

Black One title has no once per round restriction. Ello or Poe with Vectored thrusters, Black One and PTL can cancel 2 enemy target locks per round. May not happen often enough to be useful in tournament play, but then again, alpha strike lists, Vessery and Omega Leader are going to be everywhere so maybe?

If you used expert handling, would you remove two TLs, also? One from EH and one from Title?

New one from ARC and Heroes of the Resistance expansions...

swx53-vectored-thrusters.png swx57_spread.png

Black One title has no once per round restriction. Ello or Poe with Vectored thrusters, Black One and PTL can cancel 2 enemy target locks per round. May not happen often enough to be useful in tournament play, but then again, alpha strike lists, Vessery and Omega Leader are going to be everywhere so maybe?

If you used expert handling, would you remove two TLs, also? One from EH and one from Title?

No. EH performs a barrel roll, but does not perform a barrel roll action.

expert-handling.png

If you were to look at the FAQ, it is an action:

Expert Handling

This card should read: “Action: Perform a free barrel roll action . If you do not have the [barrel roll] action icon, receive 1 stress token. You may then remove 1 enemy target lock from your ship.”

If you were to look at the FAQ, it is an action:

Expert Handling

This card should read: “Action: Perform a free barrel roll action . If you do not have the [barrel roll] action icon, receive 1 stress token. You may then remove 1 enemy target lock from your ship.”

In that case, EH + Title does remove two. Neat.