So, in that last chart, we can see that about 35% (or so) of all the points spent were on BTS (Big Turreted Ships)? I wonder if there is a way to see how many lists have a BTS vs. not.

Pandemonium books & Games in Cambridge MA. had their store Championship on Fri (Feb 7)

22 players, 5 rounds. I was the winner, not the TO, but the top 4 are all regulars at the store and I know their lists.

Winner: (5-0, 812 MOV) Captain Oicunn + Darth Vader + Determination, Howlrunner, Academu Pilot, Academy Pilot, Academy Pilot

2nd: (4-1) Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking device + Fire Control System + Gunner, Soontir Fel + Push the Limit, Omnicron Group Pilot + Darth Vader

Top 4: (3-1-1) Rear Adminral Chiraneau + Veteran Instincts + Engine Upgrade, Commander Kenkirk + Darth Vader

Top 4: (3-0-2) Dash Rendar + Outrider + Heavy Laser Cannon + Push the Limit + Kyle Katarn + Engine Upgrade, Corran Horn + VI + R2-D2 + Fire Control

Top 8: (3-1-1) Dash Rendar + Outrider + Heavy Laser Cannon + Push the Limit + Kyle Katarn + Engine Upgrade, Corran Horn + VI + R2-D2 + Fire Control

Top 8: Named TIE swarm that I don't know the details for

Not sure of the other two top 8 spots.

So, in that last chart, we can see that about 35% (or so) of all the points spent were on BTS (Big Turreted Ships)? I wonder if there is a way to see how many lists have a BTS vs. not.

Not without a custom query, but in the meantime this will help answer that question in a qualitative way:

http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/store_champs

so we can easily crowdsource list inputs.

I'll enter a few in as I have time.

Part of what I want to see is not necessarily the winners, but just the sheer number of lists that have BTS (big turreted ships) in them. It's not so much a question as to what's winning, but just on sheer number of lists with them. Part of my beef with the "meta" isn't what's OP or not. It's what I'm tired of playing against all the time.

Pandemonium books & Games in Cambridge MA. had their store Championship on Fri (Feb 7)

22 players, 5 rounds. I was the winner, not the TO, but the top 4 are all regulars at the store and I know their lists.

Winner: (5-0, 812 MOV) Captain Oicunn + Darth Vader + Determination, Howlrunner, Academu Pilot, Academy Pilot, Academy Pilot

2nd: (4-1) Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking device + Fire Control System + Gunner, Soontir Fel + Push the Limit, Omnicron Group Pilot + Darth Vader

Top 4: (3-1-1) Rear Adminral Chiraneau + Veteran Instincts + Engine Upgrade, Commander Kenkirk + Darth Vader

Top 4: (3-0-2) Dash Rendar + Outrider + Heavy Laser Cannon + Push the Limit + Kyle Katarn + Engine Upgrade, Corran Horn + VI + R2-D2 + Fire Control

Top 8: (3-1-1) Dash Rendar + Outrider + Heavy Laser Cannon + Push the Limit + Kyle Katarn + Engine Upgrade, Corran Horn + VI + R2-D2 + Fire Control

Top 8: Named TIE swarm that I don't know the details for

Not sure of the other two top 8 spots.

Do you know if Kat has the lists and standings? (I assume Kat TO'ed). And, I think that was Saturday, Jan 7th.

Seems to be a theme at all store championships. 1 glorious bastard takes first with some crazy out of the park list, and is promptly followed by a deluge of boring Wave 5 copy-pastes.

Unfortunately missed that happening over here. I was slapped out early because of some truly abysmal dice (no evades for me, never less than 2 or 3 for Dash/Corran) and the crazy pro with Airen/Roark/Tarn/B-wing managed to beat everyone except the guy who liked to use Lando (crew) on Han solo (give you two green guesses as to why). He took 2nd and the whisper + chiraneau clone he beat in the 3rd round took first

Green dice seem to favor the Wave 5 meta.

Pandemonium books & Games in Cambridge MA. had their store Championship on Fri (Feb 7)

22 players, 5 rounds. I was the winner, not the TO, but the top 4 are all regulars at the store and I know their lists.

Winner: (5-0, 812 MOV) Captain Oicunn + Darth Vader + Determination, Howlrunner, Academu Pilot, Academy Pilot, Academy Pilot

2nd: (4-1) Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking device + Fire Control System + Gunner, Soontir Fel + Push the Limit, Omnicron Group Pilot + Darth Vader

Top 4: (3-1-1) Rear Adminral Chiraneau + Veteran Instincts + Engine Upgrade, Commander Kenkirk + Darth Vader

Top 4: (3-0-2) Dash Rendar + Outrider + Heavy Laser Cannon + Push the Limit + Kyle Katarn + Engine Upgrade, Corran Horn + VI + R2-D2 + Fire Control

Top 8: (3-1-1) Dash Rendar + Outrider + Heavy Laser Cannon + Push the Limit + Kyle Katarn + Engine Upgrade, Corran Horn + VI + R2-D2 + Fire Control

Top 8: Named TIE swarm that I don't know the details for

Not sure of the other two top 8 spots.

Do you know if Kat has the lists and standings? (I assume Kat TO'ed). And, I think that was Saturday, Jan 7th.

I would assume she has them or can get them. She was actually playing, (hers is that TIE swarm in the top 8) and someone from the store was running the rounds... but he used Cryodek as far as I can tell.

Pandemonium books & Games in Cambridge MA. had their store Championship on Fri (Feb 7)

22 players, 5 rounds. I was the winner, not the TO, but the top 4 are all regulars at the store and I know their lists.

Winner: (5-0, 812 MOV) Captain Oicunn + Darth Vader + Determination, Howlrunner, Academu Pilot, Academy Pilot, Academy Pilot

2nd: (4-1) Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking device + Fire Control System + Gunner, Soontir Fel + Push the Limit, Omnicron Group Pilot + Darth Vader

Top 4: (3-1-1) Rear Adminral Chiraneau + Veteran Instincts + Engine Upgrade, Commander Kenkirk + Darth Vader

Top 4: (3-0-2) Dash Rendar + Outrider + Heavy Laser Cannon + Push the Limit + Kyle Katarn + Engine Upgrade, Corran Horn + VI + R2-D2 + Fire Control

Top 8: (3-1-1) Dash Rendar + Outrider + Heavy Laser Cannon + Push the Limit + Kyle Katarn + Engine Upgrade, Corran Horn + VI + R2-D2 + Fire Control

Top 8: Named TIE swarm that I don't know the details for

Not sure of the other two top 8 spots.

Do you know if Kat has the lists and standings? (I assume Kat TO'ed). And, I think that was Saturday, Jan 7th.

I would assume she has them or can get them. She was actually playing, (hers is that TIE swarm in the top 8) and someone from the store was running the rounds... but he used Cryodek as far as I can tell.

I just sent <[email protected]> an email, hopefully they can get back to me with the cryodex file and the lists, and/or upload it themselves. They got us the Regionals results last year.

Seems to be a theme at all store championships. 1 glorious bastard takes first with some crazy out of the park list, and is promptly followed by a deluge of boring Wave 5 copy-pastes.

It just prove that the meta is overrated. You have to put some thought into your list, but you don't have to take a turret to win a tournament. It certainly help, but turrets is not the auto-win that some people seems to think these days.

Here are the results of the Store Championship at The Gaming Spot in Bakersfield, CA (2/8/15). I didn’t attend, but I don’t think the results were posted to the List Juggler. 18 players with 4 rounds of Swiss (75 mins), and cut to Top 8.

1^st place: Nathan (Swiss: 5^th)

Tarn Mison- Hull Upgrade, R7 Astromech

Bandit Squadron x 6

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2^nd place: Ron (Swiss: 8^th)

Han Solo- VI, C-3PO, Luke Skywalker, Engine Upgrade, Falcon Title

Tala Squadron x 2

Bandit Squadron

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Top 4: Jeff (Swiss: 3^rd)

Kyle Katarn- Blaster Turret, Jan Ors, Moldy Crow, Predator

Garven Dreis- R5-P9, Shield Upgrade

Biggs- R2-D2, Shield Upgrade

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Top 4: AJ (Swiss: 2^nd)

Han Solo- Predator, C-3PO, R2-D2 crew, Engine Upgrade, Falcon Title

Bandit Squadron x3

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Top 8: John (Swiss: 1^st)

Captain Oicunn- Determination, Moff JerJerrod, Rebel Captive, Ysanne Isard, Dauntless

Captain Yorr- Darth Vader

Black Squadron Pilot- Wingman

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Top 8: David (Swiss: 4^th)

Han Solo- Predator, C-3PO, Gunner, Engine Upgrade, Falcon Title

Bandit Squadron x3

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Top 8: Glen (Swiss: 6^th)

Bounty Hunter- Rebel Captive, Slave I Title

Obsidian Squadron x 4

Academy Pilot

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Top 8: Thomas (Swiss: 7^th)

Rear Admiral Chiraneau- Expose, Intelligence Agent, Intelligence Agent, Moff J, Experimental Interface

Whisper- VI, Navigator, Fire Control System, Advance Cloaking Device

That Tarn build is a thing of beauty.

That Tarn build is a thing of beauty.

It wasn't a Store Championship, but a couple weeks ago we attended a 21 player/75 minute round event and my friend, in his third tourney ever, went 4-0 to win it with the "Tarnation" build.

Dice Age Games

Vancouver, WA

Feb 7th, 2015

26 Players

5 Rounds of Swiss, 3 Elimination Rounds.

75 Minute Rounds

Those are some crazy squads. A Knave squadron pilot in the top 4?

That Tarn build is a thing of beauty.

It's evil. You don't want to shoot at Tarn but you have to. Meanwhile 6 Zs blast you.

That Tarn build is a thing of beauty.

It wasn't a Store Championship, but a couple weeks ago we attended a 21 player/75 minute round event and my friend, in his third tourney ever, went 4-0 to win it with the "Tarnation" build.

That would be me! I came up with a variant of it independently (Stealth instead of Hull), and Deroche pointed out the Tarnation version to me (Dom's version), and I ran it, and viola, I won! Woohoo!

Here are the results from TBS Comics's store championship in Pensacola, FL that happened on February 6th at 6pm:

10 Players

4 rounds of swiss, Cut to top 4

1st place - Kameron Little w/ Han Solo+Luke, Chewbacca+Gunner. But since he can't go to regionals, he gave the bye up to...

2nd place - Rebecca Zittel w/ Han Solo+PTL+C3PO+Millinium Falcon+Engine Upgrade+Kyle Katarn, 3x Tala Pilots

3rd place - Andrew Robinson w/ Wes Jensen+R3-A2+Flechette Torpedoes+Veteran Instincts, Tarn Mison+R7 Astromech, Horton Salm+Proton Torpedoes+Proton Torpedoes+Ion Cannon Turret+R2-D6+Veteran Instincts; beat by 1st place

4th place - Casey bowling w/ Han Solo+Veteran Instincts+Engine Upgrade+C3PO+Luke, 3x Tala Pilot; beat by 2nd place

Runner up at 5th was Joshua MacDonald w/ Captain Oicunn+Dauntless+Moff Jerjerrod+Intelligence Agent+Daredevil+Rebel Captive+Engine Upgrade, Vessery+Veteran Instincts+Engine Upgrade+Ion Cannon

1^st place: Nathan (Swiss: 5^th)

Tarn Mison- Hull Upgrade, R7 Astromech

Bandit Squadron x 6

I had a lot of fun running this build. I had run pure Z-swarms before and was unhappy with their damage output. I had been playing with a different build that had tarn in it but it wasn't working in the local meta. I started looking to see how others run Z-swarms since I had heard they do well. Dom's build popped out at me as the solution to the quick damage curve. It was a blast to fly and an exhausting 14hr tournement.

Otto's Video Games and More in Bakersfield held their X-wing Miniatures Store Championship 2015.

10 players face off to compete in head to head battle, some even coming from Santa Monica and Anaheim. Each player was looking to win the 2015 Championship Plaque (but I think most were trying to place Top 4 to win some acrylic focus tokens). Here are the placings and each player's build:

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1st Place - James (98 Points)
(20 Match Points) (674 MoV)

(2) Lambda-Class Shuttle - Omicron Group Pilot (21)
* Darth Vader (3)
(1) TIE Defender - Delta Squadron Pilot (30)
(7) TIE Phantom - "Whisper" (32)
* Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
* Fire-Control System (2)
* Gunner (5)
* Veteran Instincts (1)

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2nd Place - Brandon (100 Points)
(15 Match Points) (556 MoV)

(2) B-Wing - Blue Squadron Pilot (22)
* B-Wing/E2 (1)
* Tactician (2)
(2) B-Wing - Blue Squadron Pilot (22)
* B-Wing/E2 (1)
* Tactician (2)
(2) B-Wing - Blue Squadron Pilot (22)
* B-Wing/E2 (1)
* Tactician (2)
(2) Y-Wing - Gold Squadron Pilot (18)
* Ion Cannon Turret (5)
* R3-A2 (2)

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3rd Place - Gregory (100 Points)
(10 Match Points) (432 MoV)

(6) TIE Phantom - "Echo" (30)
* Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
* Fire-Control System (2)
* Recon Specialist (3)
* Veteran Instincts (1)
(8) VT-49 Decimator - Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)
* Gunner (5)
* Lone Wolf (2)
* Rebel Captive (3)
* Ysanne Isard (4)

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4th Place - Jeff (100 Points)
(10 Match Points) (418 MoV)

(9) X-Wing - Wedge Antilles (29)
* Predator (3)
(8) X-Wing - Luke Skywalker (28)
* Draw Their Fire (1)
* R2-D2 (4)
* Shield Upgrade (4)
(5) X-Wing - Biggs Darklighter (25)
* Experimental Interface (3)
* R2-F2 (3)

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5th Place - Ron (100 Points)
(8 Match Points) (402 MoV)

(7) YT-1300 - Lando Calrissian (44)
* C-3P0 (3)
* Nien Nunb 1)
* Predator (3)
(5) YT-1300 - Chewbacca (42)
* Jan Ors (2)
* Millennium Falcon (1)
* Recon Specialist (3)
* Veteran Instincts (1)

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6th Place - Eric (100 Points)
(8 Match Points) (372 MoV)

(5) YT-1300 - Chewbacca (42)
* C-3P0 (3)
* Jan Ors (2)
* Millennium Falcon (1)
* Predator (3)
(5) YT-2400 - "Leebo" (34)
* Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
* Outrider (5)
* Predator (3)

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7th Place - Nathan (99 Points)
(6 Match Points) (396 MoV)

(7) B-Wing - Keyan Farlander (29)
* Advanced Sensors (3)
* Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
* Stay On Target (2)
(2) B-Wing - Blue Squadron Pilot (22)
(2) Z-95 Headhunter - Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)
(2) Z-95 Headhunter - Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)
(2) Z-95 Headhunter - Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)

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8th Place - Ken (100 Points)
(5 Match Points) (179 MoV)

(6) HWK-290 - Kyle Katarn (21)
* Ion Cannon Turret (5)
* Jan Ors (2)
* Stay On Target (2)
(9) X-Wing - Wedge Antilles (29)
* Experimental Interface (3)
* Marksmanship (3)
* R2-D2 (4)
(5) X-Wing - Biggs Darklighter (25)
* R2-F2 (3)
* Stealth Device (3)

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9th Place - Josiah (98 Points)
(5 Match Points) (171 MoV)

(4) Lambda-Class Shuttle - Captain Yorr (24)
* Enhanced Scopes (1)
* Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
* ST-321 (3)
(8) TIE Interceptor - Carnor Jax (26)
* Royal Guard TIE (0)
* Shield Upgrade (4)
* Targeting Computer (2)
* Wingman (2)
(6) TIE Interceptor - Royal Guard Pilot (22)
* Royal Guard TIE (0)
* Shield Upgrade (4)
* Targeting Computer (2)
* Veteran Instincts (1)

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10th Place - David (100 Points)
(1 Match Point) (200 MoV)

(9) YT-1300 - Han Solo (46)
* C-3P0 (3)
* Engine Upgrade (4)
* Luke Skywalker (7)
* Millennium Falcon (1)
* Veteran Instincts (1)
(4) Z-95 Headhunter - Tala Squadron Pilot (13)
(4) Z-95 Headhunter - Tala Squadron Pilot (13)
(2) Z-95 Headhunter - Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)

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Congratulations to James for his Championship win! Going undefeated for the entire match.

In my game against James, "Whisper" was devastating! If the first attack didn't hit you, his second attack (Gunner) would most likely do a lot a damage (Fire Control System). Then he'd cloak after the attack (Adv. Cloaking Device), AND get a focus (pilot ability). Broken!

His Doom Shuttle also hit me with the most ugly crits. My Wedge got Blinded Pilot (lose an attack), AND Injured Pilot (ignore pilot ability and Predator upgrade). Hacker!

A special shout out to the SoCal X-Wing players, Brandon, Eric, and David (who had to leave early because of a family emergency). Thanks for coming up to make the tournament more exciting! We'll see if some of us can come down there for some games.

Just entered the Store Championships in Concord, CA (San Francisco Bay Area) at Black Diamond Games. 27 participants, 75 min rounds, 4 swiss and cut to top 8.

http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/get_tourney_details?tourney_id=174

Crazy weird to see all the rebel swarm and interesting lists do well elsewhere, but here, somehow the last two Store Championships have been won by a phantom-decimator build, and the Top 4 of the elimination rounds were all decimator-ace ship (2 Whispers, 1 Echo, and 1 Soontir).

Yes, #1 and #2 were using identical lists since they were friends and wanted to prove how broken the Whisper-Chiraneau list is.

The ranking below is the final rankings, but here's the Elimination round info. I can't seem to enter the lists in List Juggler (no option to do so).

Top 8:

Drew Bishop (#1 after Swiss) def Chris Monroe (#8 after Swiss)

Josh Ferrise (#7 after Swiss) def David Chow (#2 after Swiss)

Brendan Kendrick (#3 after Swiss) def Jeff Lee-Mars (#6 after Swiss)

Bernie Lin (#4 after Swiss) def Mark Fisher (#5 after Swiss)

Top 4:

Drew def Bernie

Josh def Brendan

Final:

Drew def Josh (True mirror match and Chiraneau with 2 hull left!)

1 Drew Bishop 4 0 Chiraneau (VI, Gunner, EU), Whisper (VI, FCS, ACD, Rebel Captive)

2 Josh Ferrise 3 1 Chiraneau (VI, Gunner, EU), Whisper (VI, FCS, ACD, Rebel Captive)

3 Bernie Lin 3 1 Chiraneau (Predator, Ysanne, DV, Reb Cap, EU), Echo (VI, FCS, ACD)

4 Brendan Kendrick 3 1 Kenkirk (LW, Ysanne, Gunner, Reb Cap, EU), Soontir (PtL, Royal Gd, Hull, TC)

5 Jeff Lee-Mars 3 1 Chewie (Predator, Jan Ors, Recon Spl), Leebo (LW, HLC, Dash, Outrider)

6 David Chow 4 0 Jax (VI), Howlrunner (VI), Mauler Mithel (VI), AP x3

7 Chris Monroe 3 1 Keyan Farlander (VI, Adv Sen, HLC), Blue Sqd Pilot (FCS), Bandit x3

8 Mark Fisher 3 1 Blue Sqd Pilot (FCS, Flechette) x2, Blue Sqd Pilot (FCS) x2

9 Ray Buladn 3 1 Krassis (HLC, Reb Cap), Howlrunner, Academy Pilot x3

10 Jason Kremin 2 2 Kenkirk (Det, Jerjerrod, IA, Ysanne), OGP (DV, Gunner), Scimitar Sqd (Prox mine)

11 Adam Sownie 2 2 Han Solo (EU, MF, C3PO, Predator, R2-D2), 3xTala

12 BJ Ramos 2 2 Dash Rendar (VI, HLC, EU, Outrider), Corran (VI, FCS, R2-D2, EU)

13 Shawn Bankson 2 2 Han Solo (VI, Nien Numb, Lando, EI, MF), Corran (Outmaneuver, FCS, R2-D2)

14 Darryl McMillon 2 2 Jan Ors (VI, Ion Turret, Nien Numb), Keyan (FCS, Opp), Wes (R2, Flechette, VI)

15 Fred Schmidt 2 2 Han Solo (EU, Chewbacca, MF), Biggs (R5-D8), Prototype

16 Jeff Wilder 2 2 Chewie (Predator, C3PO, Nien Numb, MF), Leebo (Det, HLC, Kyle K, Outrider)

17 Noel Cuevas 2 2 Whisper (VI, FCS, Intel, ACD), 5xAP

18 Tony Selby 2 2 Corran (FCS, R7-T1), Etahn A'Baht (R2-D2), Sojan (LW, Test Pilot, Chardaan Ref)

19 Jason Ng 1 3 Oicunn (Expose, Gunner, Merc Copilot), Rexler Brath (Predator, HLC)

20 Marcus Huss 1 3 Corran (LW, FCS, R2-D2), Sojan (Ad Rush, Test Pilot, Char Ref), Green Sqd (VI, Char Ref) x2

21 Chris Lott 1 3 Corran (VI, FCS, R2-D2), Keyan F (PtL, HLC, Adv Sen), Prototype (Chardaan Ref)

22 Martin Camacho 1 3 Whisper (VI, FCS, ACD, Navigator), Soontir (PtL, TC), OGP (DV, FCS)

23 Carlos G 1 3 Chiraneau (VI, Ysanne, Gunner), Whisper (VI, FCS, ACD, Weapons Engineer)

24 Lance Krentzinger 1 3 Whisper (VI, FCS, ACD, Navigator), Bounty Hunter (Gunner, Ion Cannon), Backstabber

25 Eli Stevens 1 2 Vessery (LW, HLC), Echo (ACD, VI, FCS, Recon), Scimitar

26 Benjamin Griffin 1 3 Wedge (Marksmanship, R2-F2), Luke (LW, R2-D2), Biggs (R5-K6, Proton Torp)

DNF Bill Delaney 0 3 Kath (Predator, Stealth Dev, Merc Copilot, Proton Bomb), Krassis (Mara Jade, Stealth Dev, HLC)

Those are some crazy squads. A Knave squadron pilot in the top 4?

Not only that, but that little Knave made it further than all the YTs that were there.

(the guy who used that knows how to fly - just barely missed making the finals because his Blue was one point more than a pair of Academies...)

Just entered the Store Championships in Concord, CA (San Francisco Bay Area) at Black Diamond Games. 27 participants, 75 min rounds, 4 swiss and cut to top 8.

http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/get_tourney_details?tourney_id=174

Crazy weird to see all the rebel swarm and interesting lists do well elsewhere, but here, somehow the last two Store Championships have been won by a phantom-decimator build, and the Top 4 of the elimination rounds were all decimator-ace ship (2 Whispers, 1 Echo, and 1 Soontir).

Yes, #1 and #2 were using identical lists since they were friends and wanted to prove how broken the Whisper-Chiraneau list is.

The ranking below is the final rankings, but here's the Elimination round info. I can't seem to enter the lists in List Juggler (no option to do so).

Top 8:

Drew Bishop (#1 after Swiss) def Chris Monroe (#8 after Swiss)

Josh Ferrise (#7 after Swiss) def David Chow (#2 after Swiss)

Brendan Kendrick (#3 after Swiss) def Jeff Lee-Mars (#6 after Swiss)

Bernie Lin (#4 after Swiss) def Mark Fisher (#5 after Swiss)

Top 4:

Drew def Bernie

Josh def Brendan

Final:

Drew def Josh (True mirror match and Chiraneau with 2 hull left!)

1 Drew Bishop 4 0 Chiraneau (VI, Gunner, EU), Whisper (VI, FCS, ACD, Rebel Captive)

2 Josh Ferrise 3 1 Chiraneau (VI, Gunner, EU), Whisper (VI, FCS, ACD, Rebel Captive)

3 Bernie Lin 3 1 Chiraneau (Predator, Ysanne, DV, Reb Cap, EU), Echo (VI, FCS, ACD)

4 Brendan Kendrick 3 1 Kenkirk (LW, Ysanne, Gunner, Reb Cap, EU), Soontir (PtL, Royal Gd, Hull, TC)

5 Jeff Lee-Mars 3 1 Chewie (Predator, Jan Ors, Recon Spl), Leebo (LW, HLC, Dash, Outrider)

6 David Chow 4 0 Jax (VI), Howlrunner (VI), Mauler Mithel (VI), AP x3

7 Chris Monroe 3 1 Keyan Farlander (VI, Adv Sen, HLC), Blue Sqd Pilot (FCS), Bandit x3

8 Mark Fisher 3 1 Blue Sqd Pilot (FCS, Flechette) x2, Blue Sqd Pilot (FCS) x2

9 Ray Buladn 3 1 Krassis (HLC, Reb Cap), Howlrunner, Academy Pilot x3

10 Jason Kremin 2 2 Kenkirk (Det, Jerjerrod, IA, Ysanne), OGP (DV, Gunner), Scimitar Sqd (Prox mine)

11 Adam Sownie 2 2 Han Solo (EU, MF, C3PO, Predator, R2-D2), 3xTala

12 BJ Ramos 2 2 Dash Rendar (VI, HLC, EU, Outrider), Corran (VI, FCS, R2-D2, EU)

13 Shawn Bankson 2 2 Han Solo (VI, Nien Numb, Lando, EI, MF), Corran (Outmaneuver, FCS, R2-D2)

14 Darryl McMillon 2 2 Jan Ors (VI, Ion Turret, Nien Numb), Keyan (FCS, Opp), Wes (R2, Flechette, VI)

15 Fred Schmidt 2 2 Han Solo (EU, Chewbacca, MF), Biggs (R5-D8), Prototype

16 Jeff Wilder 2 2 Chewie (Predator, C3PO, Nien Numb, MF), Leebo (Det, HLC, Kyle K, Outrider)

17 Noel Cuevas 2 2 Whisper (VI, FCS, Intel, ACD), 5xAP

18 Tony Selby 2 2 Corran (FCS, R7-T1), Etahn A'Baht (R2-D2), Sojan (LW, Test Pilot, Chardaan Ref)

19 Jason Ng 1 3 Oicunn (Expose, Gunner, Merc Copilot), Rexler Brath (Predator, HLC)

20 Marcus Huss 1 3 Corran (LW, FCS, R2-D2), Sojan (Ad Rush, Test Pilot, Char Ref), Green Sqd (VI, Char Ref) x2

21 Chris Lott 1 3 Corran (VI, FCS, R2-D2), Keyan F (PtL, HLC, Adv Sen), Prototype (Chardaan Ref)

22 Martin Camacho 1 3 Whisper (VI, FCS, ACD, Navigator), Soontir (PtL, TC), OGP (DV, FCS)

23 Carlos G 1 3 Chiraneau (VI, Ysanne, Gunner), Whisper (VI, FCS, ACD, Weapons Engineer)

24 Lance Krentzinger 1 3 Whisper (VI, FCS, ACD, Navigator), Bounty Hunter (Gunner, Ion Cannon), Backstabber

25 Eli Stevens 1 2 Vessery (LW, HLC), Echo (ACD, VI, FCS, Recon), Scimitar

26 Benjamin Griffin 1 3 Wedge (Marksmanship, R2-F2), Luke (LW, R2-D2), Biggs (R5-K6, Proton Torp)

DNF Bill Delaney 0 3 Kath (Predator, Stealth Dev, Merc Copilot, Proton Bomb), Krassis (Mara Jade, Stealth Dev, HLC)

This looks more like a sign that your local meta hasnt adapted yet rather than them being overpowered.

This looks more like a sign that your local meta hasnt adapted yet rather than them being overpowered.

That is a very easy thing to say, but it doesn't hold up looking at the diversity in the list composition. It is much more likely that those two players are just good at the game and picked a competitive list.

This looks more like a sign that your local meta hasnt adapted yet rather than them being overpowered.

That is a very easy thing to say, but it doesn't hold up looking at the diversity in the list composition. It is much more likely that those two players are just good at the game and picked a competitive list.

I don't see a lot of Rebel control lists. Maybe that's the next thing for you guys? Stress out the Phantoms?

This looks more like a sign that your local meta hasnt adapted yet rather than them being overpowered.

That is a very easy thing to say, but it doesn't hold up looking at the diversity in the list composition. It is much more likely that those two players are just good at the game and picked a competitive list.

I don't see a lot of Rebel control lists. Maybe that's the next thing for you guys? Stress out the Phantoms?

It's not really an easy fix for Phantoms. Unless you're Stress Wess or Rebel Captive (i.e, specifically causing stress before ACD can kick in) you need to slap on two stress to have a pronounced effect on the phantom. Once Soontir and Vader come crashing into the scene, or really any ship when PTL becomes inveitably even more popular (with auto-thrusters, it probably will), stress in general will become far more valuable.

Now, ioning the phantom will produce results regardless of when it gets ioned

Anyway, I have to say the problem with that list isn't the phantom, it's the combination of phantom with fattie and a poor scoring system. Utterly lack of partial scoring only compounds how difficult it is to score points against these two very different but very hard to kill ships. The fact that one essentially perfectly covers the weaknesses of the other does not help matters.