So no talk about Commander Alozen?

By JJFDVORAK, in X-Wing

In all the frenzied post about the announced Imperial Epic Ship and the included Tie Advanced fix, people mentioned everything from loving to hating the new Imperial Huge, Loving to hating the Tie Advanced fix, how overpowered to how underpowered it would or wouldn't be, etc. The one thing that I have not really seen mentioned at all is the new TIe Advanced Pilots, and especially the one the was spoiled, Commander Alozen. If you have been under a rock and not seen his card

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/x-wing/news/large-ships/imperial-raider/commander-alozen.png

So I feel his ability is pretty good. For several reasons that spring to mind. The first is that with only PS 5, you might have difficulty getting a TL on on higher PS ships(especially ones that are fast and have boost) since you move and take your action before them and they could be out of range(again mostly just really fast ships with boost, but still) Secondly, it is not an action so you can still do it if you lose your action for some reason,(bumping, etc) Thirdly, it happens at the start of the combat phase, so enemy ships will already have taken their actions, and you can TL the one that is the most vulnerable(ie taken their own TL, instead of Focus or Evade) Thats all I got, as far as his pilot ability goes, but I think those reasons are enough to like him. Give him Proton Rockets and you can get 5 shots with Focus and Target lock without getting a stress from PtL. Give him the Tie X1 title and Advanved Targeting Computer and you can give him 3 focused and Target Locked shot and if you don't use your TL, he gets a Crit for free. Seems pretty good to me for 26-28 pts. That is not even exploring any of the other "free" system upgrades he will have access to. So I kinda love him. What do you guys/girls think?

I think the problem he will have is that vader and marek r still better choices, unless ur restricted points wise ppl will naturally go for one of them instead.

He came up a lot in the TIE Advanced threads that were all over the place after he was spoiled. I know I've discussed him a few times.

He's a great value. It's rare for a PS5 pilot to get an EPT and he comes with a useful ability that doesn't really need to be built around. While ATC is obviously good on him, I think he'd also do well with an Accuracy Corrector and Cluster Missiles.

He's a great affordable wingman for Vessery. With ATC he'll want to hang on to target locks but his ability will give him the ability to change the TL to targets of opportunity.

Vader-lite

He is for now one of the 2 Advanceds I would bother putting an EU on (Vader of course being the other) I like the Proton Rockets on him.

He is stuck in that range where if you play in a generic heavy environment he will probably do amazing, but once PS starts to rise, he starts to lose usefulness (mostly because of trying to land in that range 1 zone)

Personally I usually get more excited about the upper level pilots in an expansion, (Unless there is a generic with an EPT of course) so I am waiting for Juno to be leaked

Vader-lite

Similar to this, but hardly a bad thing, and occasionally has the edge on Vader.

He gets the action even while stressed or collided, for one thing...

I like his synergy with the Advanced Targeting Computer.

I agree, he could see time in my lists!!

I /kind of/ like him with ATC, but I think Intimidation's going to be more fun. Build at [27] Alozen, Intimidation, TIE/x1, Accuracy Corrector. Block/crash into other ships, debuff them, and still get 2 hits on another ship in arc.

Support with practically anything in the Imperial arsenal, though ATC Storms, Sigmas, or AT squints come to mind.

Alozen is pretty exciting. Despite Vader's fame, I could see Alozen being the staple named Advanced pilot. He has a non-niche, action economy ability, an EPT, and is cheap enough to throw in a lot of lists. He blocks well, is resistant to being blocked himself (especially if you use PTL to Barrel Roll at the beginning of combat after the TL), and he combos fantastically with ATC. Honestly, he's better than Vader in some lists.

Alozen is pretty exciting. Despite Vader's fame, I could see Alozen being the staple named Advanced pilot. He has a non-niche, action economy ability, an EPT, and is cheap enough to throw in a lot of lists. He blocks well, is resistant to being blocked himself (especially if you use PTL to Barrel Roll at the beginning of combat after the TL), and he combos fantastically with ATC. Honestly, he's better than Vader in some lists.

He doesn't perform a TL action, he just acquires it, ala Dutch. So no PtL. At least off the TL.

Edited by Bipolar Potter

is resistant to being blocked himself (especially if you use PTL to Barrel Roll at the beginning of combat after the TL)

Ninja'd.

This means that you can't use it to PTL, but it also means that stress doesn't prevent it either.

Edited by Forgottenlore

is resistant to being blocked himself (especially if you use PTL to Barrel Roll at the beginning of combat after the TL)

Alozen's ability is not an action so you can't PTL off of it.

Ninja'd.

This means that you can't use it to PTL, but it also means that stress doesn't prevent it either.

Ach, verdammt!

This what I get for browsing FFG on my phone... too annoying to look up the card art so I don't fact check before posting.

Still, he's got a great ability and options for his price!

My favorite list ive seen so far is him and Maarek paired with Vessery. All that synergy.

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My favorite list ive seen so far is him and Maarek paired with Vessery. All that synergy.

I really like this idea. I was also thinking that he might be the perfect guy to run decoy on. Use his almost guaranteed hits to strip a token and or shields off of Maarek's or Rexler's target to help them land some crits.

My favorite list ive seen so far is him and Maarek paired with Vessery. All that synergy.

You'd have to run VI on him or Decoy on him/Vessery to get Vessery's shot after he picks up a TL, though.

is resistant to being blocked himself (especially if you use PTL to Barrel Roll at the beginning of combat after the TL)

Alozen's ability is not an action so you can't PTL off of it.

Ninja'd.

This means that you can't use it to PTL, but it also means that stress doesn't prevent it either.

Since he's fairly stress resitant I wonder if Decoy might be a good EPT for him in a list with guys like Fel and Vader so that he can be the first one to take a shot at a target with Rebel Captive.

My favorite list ive seen so far is him and Maarek paired with Vessery. All that synergy.

You'd have to run VI on him or Decoy on him/Vessery to get Vessery's shot after he picks up a TL, though.

No you wouldn't, he gets the TL at the start of the Combat Phase not at this turn in the Combat Phase.

My favorite list ive seen so far is him and Maarek paired with Vessery. All that synergy.

You'd have to run VI on him or Decoy on him/Vessery to get Vessery's shot after he picks up a TL, though.
No you wouldn't, he gets the TL at the start of the Combat Phase not at this turn in the Combat Phase.

Oh right, durr. I haven't really been making builds around his ability since he's such a great EPT slot-in.

I suspect Vessery will see a lot of play with ATC Advanceds, since those target locks will stick around. Alozen, at PS5 and with his pilot ability, is especially synergistic, since Vessery will shoot first, removing shields, leaving the target open to ATC auto-crits.

He might be fun to pay with as a blocking advanced.

Commander Alozen is a skill 5 with an EPT so you can VI it up to 7 which is not that high with all the Whisper Echo Han + VI out there. The free target lock at range 1 works okay but not great depending on what you would use it for. Cluster missiles is probably the best but you would be using EU to get a boost to help get into range 1. Since proton rockets requires focus I don't see that combo having as good of synergy as one would say. Of course the new ATL for 1 point sounds like something that would help Alozen.

Other than that it is alright but I don't see it being a top card. Not Like Farlander or Soonter.

His ability's actually good with Prockets because you get a focus+TL shot without stress.

His ability's actually good with Prockets because you get a focus+TL shot without stress.

Proton Rockets aren't that good if you've got ATC though. You'd probably be better off spending those 3 points on Predator. They might be pretty good if you took Accuracy Corrector though as TL+Focus Proton Rockets gives a nice damage spike to go along with the lower but consistent damage from Accuracy Corrector.

Edited by WWHSD

5h vs 3h1c isn't really "not that good" though.