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Hello again

I decided to write a new post, as I was unable to change title of mine previous one:

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/128636-saving-b-wing-repaints-and-conversions-glued-fingers-blog/

Anyway, today I'd like to ask for your help in developing a new vessel for mine fleet

As I got 1 B-Wing from polish distributor ("free" model as a result of complaint, you can read more on link above and mine blog) I've decided that I can't do much with just a model, and instead of storing it in shelf I'll create mine own Deathraven. Outside "home rules" flights against friends, I'll play him as normal B-wing.

Wookie page:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Deathraven

And here I need your help, guys.

Firstly, I have completely no idea how to solve problem with Erron Kell. I thought about something like just merging two B-Wings with this pilot ability instead of thinking about new one, so he wouldn't be too OP:

"You can perform two attack sequences in one round until you have at least half hit points"

I think that's quite fair, as it works as just 2 B-Wings.

And secondly, how about the stats?

For sure attack 3 agility 1, like ordinary B-Wing. 4 or more attack will be way too OP, and with agility 0 it will die way too fast (it's not Decimator's hit points). And If Kell was really an ace pilot, than he for sure knows how to avoid attacks.

But what about the rest? 6 hulls 10 shields is way too much for me, that would have costed like 60pts+ Mine friend proposed 4hp, 8 shields but I find it too little, as ship had "enchanted shields generators".

Last but not least- just for simplicity I'll leave B-Wing maneuver dial.

I'm counting on your game experiences and helping hands!

BTW, here is great card design page, maybe it'll help. Play with it

http://cardcreator.atelierdufaucon.com/

I've have one put together.

Now I need to find out how it as painted...

Earlier thread - any inspiration?

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/130303-deathraven-rebel-large-ship-custom-made/

Thanks very much, ofc I tried searching for "deathraven" or "death raven" but browser showed no posts :/

Here is what I would do.

Death Raven (Small Base)

Unique

Erron Kell

When attacking one of your blank results may be changed to a hit result.

PS:6

ATT:3

AG:1

Hull:4

Shields: 6

Upgrades:

Elite Pilot, Cannon, System, Torpedoes X2

30 Pts

Dial

Same as B-wing.

- all ones removed except for 1 straight.

- 2 Banks are green

- K-turn moved to a 4

That fits the Fluff well IMO. And gives him an Ability to do an extra damage all the time, if he rolls a blank. Plus gives the ship more shields and hull, while lowering the maneuverability.

All Fair trades.

oh, that seems like quite reasonable idea.

I haven't thought about him as so "normal" ship, resembling ordinary B. That could be quite nice.

I'll have to seriously think about your idea

about K-Turn I rather thought about giving him 1 speed turn, because looking on engines (4 on lower half, 4 on upper half of hull) that will be even faster and more reasonable than in ordinary B. just turn down lower ones, making upper full-thrust ones do K-Turn for you. So it should be even faster.

Or, maybe just a 2 WHITE K-turn? What do you think about it?

Well the reason I give him a 4 is his wing size, turning that around even in space requires speed and distance same as for no 1 banks or turns. It says bigger than a normal star fighter and although not quick still fast enough to out run the bigger ships. The K would cetainly be RED, and at least a 3.

After analyzing your opinion I decided that I'll give him green 1&2 (maybe 3), white 4 forward and 5 red K-turn

first, bomber has this configuration and it wasn't designed to be agile ship, second- just to be wired

What does you think about these dials? I thought right one will resemble it as a fast ship, not suitable for dodge fighting, while left one bases on B dial:

The one on the right is better.

I still think with that wing span you would not have any 1 turns for 1 banks. But hey it's your ship.

You may be right, but let's remember that there is no such things in space as "top" and "bottom", and left/right is valid only for your ship. And X-wing game takes 3d fights onto the 2d plain level.

That's why If I were the Deathraven's pilot, I'd first rotate mine ship 90deg clockwise or counterclockwise, and than turn up or down, while for game's plain 2D surface that would look as left/right turn.

I think that's the way Kell used to fly such ship.

Anwyay, here is mine current proposal with pilot card and -I hope- final dial.

http://bit.ly/1D7avqd

And i think that point value for this ship will be about 45 points for big base, and 50 points if on small base. Or maybe bit higher? how about 50/55?

I also changed barrel roll to boost action. I thought that barrel rolling this ship would like awkward, while "upgraded engine" should serve as game's boost.

after all, it's not hard to outmaneuver with dial like that

PS. there is somethink strange with this link- it doesn't show recent changes, please just copy it to your browser bar rather than click it to jump to cardcreator

I think this should be a Large-base ship, like this:

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/130655-deathraven/

Even on a Large base, you can see how big the Deathraven really is.

Being a huge B-wing fan...I would love to see this ship in the game. As far as the stat line you gave it..I could see most of that. I still not sure how the original B-wings in the game have a 1AG. Should have been a 2 in my opinion. Maybe they make a upgrade where you trade a 1 sheild for 1 AG... B-wing only....I would use it all the time.

yup, 1ag is also too little for me, but on the other hand X-wing has 2, and that would be wired if fighter would have the same agility as heavy assault fighter not designed for dogfights...

anyway, I think I'll stick to stat lines I proposed, and after playing for some time I'll give you results