It mean the TIE Avenger is even less likely to be made for XWMG. sadface

Where do you all think the TIE avenger could fit in the imperial lineup?

I could maybe see it at 30-40point as an in between of the defenders tanky directness and the phantoms maneuverability, but I don't see it in the 20-30 range. Maybe to introduce a new upgrade type (tractor beams?)

Bomber-style panels are prettier than rear-split panels, though?

30-40 point range + beam weapon upgrade slot

Bomber-style panels are prettier than rear-split panels, though?

Look strangely too close to Tie Interceptors though.

Bomber-style panels are prettier than rear-split panels, though?

I feel the opposite naturally.

Bomber-style panels are prettier than rear-split panels, though?

Look strangely too close to Tie Interceptors though.

Like the Advance<->Bomber? I don't think it would be that confusing honestly.

From my perspective the Tie Avenger should have the E-Wings stats and almost the same dial but with different upgrade options:

Missile and Beam Weapon.

Action Bar: boost instead of barrel roll.

This would play completely different from Tie Defender.

So I am happy FFG didn't came up with a "Avenger" Title for the Tie Advanced.

There IS room left in the 28-40 points region for this phantastic ship.

I agree that it's a good thing they didn't use the Avenger Title for the Advanced. I really hope they come out with this in the next wave.

I'd say that them not making the TIE defender a TIE interceptor++ is a pretty strong indicator that the Avenger is... improbable.

That being said, never say never with X-wing.

I'd say that them not making the TIE defender a TIE interceptor++ is a pretty strong indicator that the Avenger is... improbable.

That being said, never say never with X-wing.

Due to the fact that they didn't made the defender a Tie Interceptor++ to me is an indicator that this role was left for the Tie Avenger.

From my perspective the Tie Avenger should have the E-Wings stats and almost the same dial but with different upgrade options:

Missile and Beam Weapon.

Action Bar: boost instead of barrel roll.

This would play completely different from Tie Defender.

So I am happy FFG didn't came up with a "Avenger" Title for the Tie Advanced.

There IS room left in the 28-40 points region for this phantastic ship.

If they'd made it an avenger tittle we'd indeed have reason to mourn but I'm happy and pretty sure we'll see the avenger.

The defender is a heavy cannon carrying sniper, the avenger would be the hyper agile dog fighter in the upper 20 point range.

Where the defender is fast but turns poorly the avenger will turn on a dime, and I'd love beam weapons to finally make an appearance.

From my perspective the Tie Avenger should have the E-Wings stats and almost the same dial but with different upgrade options:

Missile and Beam Weapon.

Action Bar: boost instead of barrel roll.

This would play completely different from Tie Defender.

So I am happy FFG didn't came up with a "Avenger" Title for the Tie Advanced.

There IS room left in the 28-40 points region for this phantastic ship.

I would also be fine with the x wing statline, or even 3,3,2,2.

I agree that it's a good thing they didn't use the Avenger Title for the Advanced. I really hope they come out with this in the next wave.

That would be great, but imps have a good amount of ships left.

I'd say that them not making the TIE defender a TIE interceptor++ is a pretty strong indicator that the Avenger is... improbable.

That being said, never say never with X-wing.

Honestly the TIE Interceptor++ is more like the Phantom that was presumably designed at the same time as the Defender. Though, I still think there is room between those ships for a role, especially with a new upgrade type.

Bomber-style panels are prettier than rear-split panels, though?

Look strangely too close to Tie Interceptors though.

Well that card is a trip down memory lane. ^__^

I think the fact that they made a Z-95, which looks almost exactly the same as an X-Wing with S-Foils closed... and then made a separate Z-95 for Scum.... that it is CERTAINLY possible to see a TIE Avenger, that happens to look similar to the Advanced, but is different.

I think the fact that they made a Z-95, which looks almost exactly the same as an X-Wing with S-Foils closed... and then made a separate Z-95 for Scum.... that it is CERTAINLY possible to see a TIE Avenger, that happens to look similar to the Advanced, but is different.

Can't say I follow this logic.The Z-95 looking like a proto X-wing is something of a non-sequeter: the TIEs all look roughly the same. They'll make the Avenger if they A: want to and B: have design space for it.

To be honest, I don't have a clue what Wave 7 holds. The interviews suggest some bounty hunter ship Scum larges (Hound's Tooth for example) but that won't be the entirety. Perhaps the long predicted Skipray as a Scum/Empire crossship?

I would love to see the Avenger. Maybe the first ship with a beam weapon and the first Imperial ship with a S-turn.

I would love to see the Avenger. Maybe the first ship with a beam weapon and the first Imperial ship with a S-turn.

This would be nice.

I thought the worst thing was all the whining about having to buy an Epic ship by tournament only people?

I think the fact that they made a Z-95, which looks almost exactly the same as an X-Wing with S-Foils closed... and then made a separate Z-95 for Scum.... that it is CERTAINLY possible to see a TIE Avenger, that happens to look similar to the Advanced, but is different.

Can't say I follow this logic.The Z-95 looking like a proto X-wing is something of a non-sequeter: the TIEs all look roughly the same. They'll make the Avenger if they A: want to and B: have design space for it.

To be honest, I don't have a clue what Wave 7 holds. The interviews suggest some bounty hunter ship Scum larges (Hound's Tooth for example) but that won't be it. Perhaps the long predicted Skipray as a Scum/Empire crossship?

I love the Skipray and it would be nice to have another Imp/Scum cross ship as right now there is only 1 while there are 3 Reb/Scum crossovers.

I love seeing a lot of the old Star Wars TCG pics being tossed up into the forums. I loved that game and was really sad when Decipher lost the license.

Side note, has anyone tried FFGs Star Wars LCG? I am interested but not sure I am ready to dive into a new game.

Bomber-style panels are prettier than rear-split panels, though?

Look strangely too close to Tie Interceptors though.

Well that card is a trip down memory lane. ^__^

Oh how I wish that game still existed(outside of printable online cards)! The first expansion pack I purchased had a foil Luke Skywalker Jedi Knight!

The Avenger is guaranteed to be seen at some point. Why would FFG leave money on the table? It would be an instant hit, especially if a new Marek pilot card was included.

It might not get released until they're ready to close shop on the game, but it will get shipped. Hell, I didn't start playing this game until FFG announced the Defender. I bought ton of stuff for both factions months before the ship I actually wanted even hit the streets.

Unless this game is ending this coming year, the Avenger will be produced at some point. It's one of the few ships everyone knows and is a simple design to produce. I think of it as an Interceptor with a missile and 2 shields. Not sure it needs a cannon. 20+ points.

I'd play all Avengers if it came out.

It just better be a 4 shield interceptor with a target lock, missile slot, and beam weapon slot.

Unless this game is ending this coming year, the Avenger will be produced at some point. It's one of the few ships everyone knows and is a simple design to produce. I think of it as an Interceptor with a missile and 2 shields. Not sure it needs a cannon. 20+ points.

Given the poor state of missiles it should not just be an interceptor with missiles. It needs its own design space to truly be a fun ship.

Bomber-style panels are prettier than rear-split panels, though?

Look strangely too close to Tie Interceptors though.

Well that card is a trip down memory lane. ^__^

Oh how I wish that game still existed(outside of printable online cards)! The first expansion pack I purchased had a foil Luke Skywalker Jedi Knight!

As much as I loved having the game - playing it was simply not very enjoyable. It was a cash grab with enormous balance issues.

I trust FFG, not Decipher.