Hi Guys!

My group is playing descent for a while, but therr are some questions which are still unanswered for us.

The 1st.:

Shadow Vault -staircases-

"A figure may spend 1 movement point while on a staircase to move to the other as if they were adjecent spaces"

Questions:

Can i block it with an other figure?

Can i attack the blocking figure from the other obj. Token? The QG says "as if they were adjecent spaces"

The Monster's Hoard- Glyphs of Transport

"A figure standing on a glyph of transport may move to any othet glyph in his line of sight as if it were adjecent. For these purposes, neither friendly nor enemy figures block line of sight( neither do the glyphs of transport).

Questions:

Can i block the transport with a figure?

Can i attack the blocking figure from an other glyh which is in line of sight?

Thank you for the answers!

You may block the figure from standing on the glyphs/staircase in the first place. However, if a figure is standing on a glyph/the staircase, you may not block it from using the token. If a figure on the staircase uses the staircase but the other side is blocked, it will be placed in the nearest empty space. It is the same with the glyphs of transport. This is the same for almost every other similar scenario in Descent, except when stated otherwise. It is very difficult to block figures from performing actions, because they can usually just move to the next empty space. For example, if you surround a necromancer with monsters (or other heroes) it can still summon the reanimate familiar. Since there are no adjacent spaces, it just gets placed 2 spaces away instead.

You may not attack (melee) the figure on the other side. The spaces are not adjacent. You may only spend a movement point to move between them as if they were adjacent. For any other purpose, including counting spaces, they are not adjacent.

Thank you! we will play in this way.

You may block the figure from standing on the glyphs/staircase in the first place. However, if a figure is standing on a glyph/the staircase, you may not block it from using the token. If a figure on the staircase uses the staircase but the other side is blocked, it will be placed in the nearest empty space. It is the same with the glyphs of transport. This is the same for almost every other similar scenario in Descent, except when stated otherwise. It is very difficult to block figures from performing actions, because they can usually just move to the next empty space. For example, if you surround a necromancer with monsters (or other heroes) it can still summon the reanimate familiar. Since there are no adjacent spaces, it just gets placed 2 spaces away instead.

i disagree with that.

there are (quest/class) ACTIONS that can not be blocked (e.g. Shadow Vault waterfall, necro). But these cases here are no actions! It's simple movement by spending 1 MP zu move from one space to another adjecent space. This can not be blocked by a monster on a floor title. So why should it for these adjecent spaces ? There is no "using the staircase/glyph" action.

For me the the basic rule applies. Nothing in the quest overwrites this:

"Moving into an adjacent space costs one movement point[...].

Figures cannot move into or through spaces containing figures or

obstacles. These spaces are known as blocked spaces."

For me the the basic rule applies. Nothing in the quest overwrites this:

"Moving into an adjacent space costs one movement point[...].

Figures cannot move into or through spaces containing figures or

obstacles. These spaces are known as blocked spaces."

I think you are right, actually. I missed the bit about it being "spend a MP" and not "as an action, a figure may..." and that very well may make the difference, since moving "as if it were adjacent" would imply invoking the normal rules for moving to an adjacent space. I know that for the other two situations in the shadow vault (going from the River's edge to the stream or the stream to the waterfall) can't be blocked- but you're right, those are actions, not spending a MP.

For me the the basic rule applies. Nothing in the quest overwrites this:

"Moving into an adjacent space costs one movement point[...].

Figures cannot move into or through spaces containing figures or

obstacles. These spaces are known as blocked spaces."

I think you are right, actually. I missed the bit about it being "spend a MP" and not "as an action, a figure may..." and that very well may make the difference, since moving "as if it were adjacent" would imply invoking the normal rules for moving to an adjacent space. I know that for the other two situations in the shadow vault (going from the River's edge to the stream or the stream to the waterfall) can't be blocked- but you're right, those are actions, not spending a MP.

"You may not attack (melee) the figure on the other side. The spaces are not adjacent. You may only spend a movement point to move between them as if they were adjacent. For any other purpose, including counting spaces, they are not adjacent."

So is this statement still correct?

That statement is still correct. The part of the answer that has been corrected is "since you treat it as if you were moving to an adjacent space, if the space is occupied by an enemy figure, you can't move through that figure- just like a normal movement."

To put the rule another way:

"When your figure is on one of the staircase tokens, and has at least 1 movement point, in addition to the 8 spaces surrounding your current space, you may also consider the other staircase as another space to potentially move your figure.with that MP. All of the other normal movement rules apply. For any other activity (anything that isn't "spending a MP") you are only adjacent to those physical 8 spaces around your figure."

For the glyphs it is the same, except its "you may also consider any other glyph token you can see as a space to move your figure to, and figures (and other glyphs) don't stop you from seeing glyphs behind them."

This is different than the waterfall and stream- since there you are "placing your figure as an action" and not "spending a movement point", you just use the nearest unblocked space if the space described in the rules is occupied- that cannot be stopped.