TIE Interceptor targeting computer

By Black Knight Leader, in X-Wing

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Since the TIE Advanced X1 is getting a exclusive Targeting Computer shouldnt the TIE Interceptor also get a Interceptor only targeting computer? The TIE Interceptor had the most advanced and powerful targeting computer during the whole Civil War, tied ONLY by the TIE Defender. Since it was equal with Defender I would be ok if the Defender could have it too.

There are two reasons why i disagree with you:

- Tie interceptor will be more than fine with Autothrusters.

- You can already get a TC with your modification if you wish to fit the Fluff.

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I think the Interceptors need a free Title that allows them to take two Modifications, but you can't equip it if you're PS is 4 or less.

Thoughts?

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Hehe ...

I like to joust with a bunch of Alphas + Stealth Device.

And watch how my opponent copes with that.

The Autothrusters would save me a few points and it would save me from rolling 5 blanks in range 3 - which tend to happen sometimes.

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I think the Interceptors need a free Title that allows them to take two Modifications, but you can't equip it if you're PS is 4 or less.

Thoughts?

That's crazy talk! Shame on you for such madness.

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Yup calling me a fool is "defamation of character." You got proof I have zero "facts" to back up my statement? No. IM using personal experience playing the game WITH "INTERCEPTORS" and getting one shooted by good turret dice rolls alot.

Dont ever write me agian for any reason.

Dude, you seriously, actually, need to chill the f*ck out and relax a little.

Your posts aren't communicating what you think they're communicating because you have flown WELL past the edge of reason into some sort of hilarious rage.

Take a deep breath and walk away.

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stop jousting with interceptors, you fool!

DID YOU JUST INSULT ME? LETS GO OVER MY PAST POSTS IN THIS TOPIC. I DIDNT SAY ANYWHERE I HAD PROBLEMS WITH NONTURRETED CRAFT. I HOWEVER DID POINT OUT THAT ONE FREE EVADE MEANS NOTHING WHEN YOU GOT TWO - THREE - FOUR HITS OR CRITS LAND ON YOU.

ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE YOU FAIL YOUR ROLLS AND DIE VIEA TURRET. UNLESS OF COURSE YOU STAY OUT RANGE OF THERE WEAPONS WHICH MEANS YOU CANT KILL THEM ETHER 3RD THE TIME. YOU WANT TO KILL A TURRETED CRAFT YOU JUST ABOUT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE IN THEIR FIRING ARC.

SO DONT ACCUSE ME OF JOUSTING AND DIEING AS MY REASON FOR NOT SEEING A VALUE IN AUTO THRUSTER.

SORRY IF MY ATTEMPT AT IRREVERENCE INSULTED YOU. I MEANT "YOU" IN THE GENERAL SENSE AS I WAS PRETENDING THAT WAS MESSAGE FFG WAS SENDING TO US AS A WHOLE. IF I WANTED TO INSULT YOU SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD'VE ADDRESSED OR QUOTED YOU.

SORRY FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING!!!!

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WHAT ARE WE YELLING ABOUT?!?!?!

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Look yall can use AT but I just dont see the value of it. IM not going to attack you over it. I think its a safeer bett to get stuff on the Interceptor that will fry turrets faster than to sit around waiting to die.

You seem pretty angry, and at the risk of upsetting you more...I diagree with a lot of your post.

" IF YOUR FIGHTING MOST TURRETED CRAFT YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO BE IN THERE FIRING ARC EXCEPT FOR TURR or a Y-Wing with no backup or Hawk with no backup. Speaking of staying out of firing arcs, you THIS effectivly, buying a AT is pretty much wasted points."

Thats patently untrue. Interceptos can easily arc dodge turret ships almost at will with a bit of practice.

" What you said about dealing with ships with inferior dials means nothing when you have to get into there firing ark alot of the time just too attack them when they have turrets and backup that has turrets."

Why? You are in turret arc, sure, but not their primary arc, and so you get AT benefit.

"All craft can have more than three attack die at range two or THREE while using Expose, OPPORTUNIST, Heavy LASER CANNON OUTRIDER, and at range three you get three dodge at best, 2 with outmanuver. Oh and if IM not mistaken inst there a B-Wing upgrade that basically gives it a torp turret? Yeah fun times if they got one reg torp and one advanced torp. "

Come on...who uses Expose? Sure it's possible, but INCREDIBLY rare and unlikely. Opportunist...well, you shouldnt have zero evade/focus on Interceptors most of the time. HLC Outrider? I agree this is nasty, but Interceptors are the best ship in the game for getting into the range 1 donut. Outmaneuver at range 3? Why the *** do you have the Outrider out of your arc while you are in his?!

And you are mistaken, the B-Wing is a pilot ability. It is nasty though.

1) Your first point is adressed by my 2nd point

2) The AT maybe active BUT the problem still remains that I am probably still in their turret firing arc being attacked.

3) As of now probably A-Wing players will end up using it most.

4) The counter for keeping Opportunist from activating can itself be countered by forceing the enemy to spend there tokens. I do this all the time with TURR ( VET RGI SD TC) and BARON flight (Opportunist RGI SD TC). Whatever could have tokens to nerf the Baron I hit them with Turr. I like Opportunist on Baron its like PTL ecpt your free action is + 1 damage.

IF your like me were I have to play number of ships type list instead of using point limits, youll find arc dodging 7 Y-Wings isnt easy, yes IM still in that same boat... And yes IM still stuck on a 4 foot long 2 foot wide table -_- I dont play often anymore because of combined issues.

5) By itself DASH would be easy to dodge but unless this is 1 on 1 he probably has a friend/s waiting for you at range 1, and some may have autoblaster turrets.

6) You may be in the Outriders firing arc because

a: Special deployment rules

b: Outmanuvered while being overwhelmed by other craft your trying to arc dodge.

c: Ion

d: cheating

They're probably going to see first is the censor stars and the block caps. Careful what you wish for.Lets get a FFG rep in here

All craft can have more than three attack die at range two or THREE while using Expose, OPPORTUNIST, Heavy LASER CANNON OUTRIDER, and at range three you get three dodge at best, 2 with outmanuver. Oh and if IM not mistaken inst there a B-Wing upgrade that basically gives it a torp turret? Yeah fun times if they got one reg torp and one advanced torp.
  • Opportunist you can ignore with a simple evade token.
  • If they use Expose on anything that's not a Decimator they're stabbing themselves in the foot. On the Decimator, they're stressed and very predictable in movement.
  • HLC Outrider has that Range 1 blind zone that lets you unload four dice into it. The problem with turrets for interceptors is the inability to arcdodge them, HLC doesn't have a total arc.
  • As for the B-wing Nera Dantels isn't scary. She's PS5, a B-wing/E2 Recon Specialist Deadeye APT APT setup is very expensive and torpedoes are one shot weapons. While APT is something to look upon in terror, I'm not too worried about a single R2-3 torpedo headed my way. It might dent the wings but unless it gets lucky (which any ship can do) I'll survive. It's not a 360 shot from a turret that kills interceptors, it's constant 360 shots.

The real annoyance is Gunner, because it chews up your tokens then just reattacks and blasts you to bits. Oh, and Jan.

I probably answered most your questions / points since your are sim to the first list of points I posted. I think Vader and Greedo would be bad too crew / gunner wise.

There are two reasons why i disagree with you:

Since the TIE Advanced X1 is getting a exclusive Targeting Computer shouldnt the TIE Interceptor also get a Interceptor only targeting computer? The TIE Interceptor had the most advanced and powerful targeting computer during the whole Civil War, tied ONLY by the TIE Defender. Since it was equal with Defender I would be ok if the Defender could have it too.

- Tie interceptor will be more than fine with Autothrusters.

- You can already get a TC with your modification if you wish to fit the Fluff.

At 2) I know but its not as good as X1 TC. For now I feel Interceptors dont really need a fix, X1s need it, but it just bugs me lore wise.

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I like to joust with a bunch of Alphas + Stealth Device.

And watch how my opponent copes with that.

The Autothrusters would save me a few points and it would save me from rolling 5 blanks in range 3 - which tend to happen sometimes.

The worst ever I ever did attack roll wise was during mission 7 with prototype Interceptor. I used it recklessly just so I could do the 7 attack dice roll, I just wanted to do it once in my life. I rolled 1 hit... I dont rember what happend after that. I know I won the game, thats it. Well and the overpowering anger of rolling 7 attack dice and with no mods I only got 1 hit. I dont rember if I did or could mod any of the results.

Yup calling me a fool is "defamation of character." You got proof I have zero "facts" to back up my statement? No. IM using personal experience playing the game WITH "INTERCEPTORS" and getting one shooted by good turret dice rolls alot.

Dont ever write me agian for any reason.

Dude, you seriously, actually, need to chill the f*ck out and relax a little.

Your posts aren't communicating what you think they're communicating because you have flown WELL past the edge of reason into some sort of hilarious rage.

Take a deep breath and walk away.

Before you joined this forum could get very chaotic because of personal attacks. IVE been personally attacked by three people alot. One of those people is MF. For the longest time nothing hapend to them, at least one of them took note of the fact nothing would happen to them but eventully FFG helped because how bad the attacks were.

People who ge away with and live for causing people mental harm piss me off.

And to make matters worse I just came from a website that has people that are protected by mods that show favortism. After being blocked after defending myself while the attackers got off scott free and went on too attack other people, I come here too this website only to find IM almost being attacked as I was there.

IM not in the mood to be attacked.

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If you've moved forums and are still "attacked", isn't it time to consider what the common denominator /really/ is?

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The problem with interceptors has never ever been killing the turrets fast. It has always been that a few blanks on a dice roll and you were pretty much screwed. That's what autothrusters solves.

You want more firepower ? Get autothrusters + TC. But to be honest, if you are playing against turrets, you would be turtling evade + focus token anyways, so i don't understand your obsession for the target lock action, which is truly useful against non turret ships for the most part.

I mean, really, you can have your opinion, and i understand that some answers are inciting to you to get upset, but if we discuss it being reasonable, i think you can see that AT's adds a lot of more reliance on the suvirval of interceptors against turret ships. That's all i need they need, since they are attack 3 ships.

Just so to speak, the worst case scenario, which would be a 4 dice attack with TL + Focus, against an interceptor with AT with focus + evade:

4 TL+Focus vs 3 Agi Evade+Focus

4 hits - 0%

3 hits - 0%

2 hits - 3%

1 hit - 22%

0 hits - 75%

I am sorry for you, mostly because i can understand why you got so jumpy in the regard, so now you are being really defensive, and i really hope we can, instead of continue this pointless chain of snarky comments, talk about why AT is actually a pretty powerful tool.

Cheers.

Edit - if you want, i can run gunner dice, and comparisons etc... and even a Fat Han with Luke + Predator is worse than the 4 dice TL + Focus against an AT Interceptor. You have to take into account that no matter what you roll, If we also add a stealth device, it is borderline impossible to manage to hit it, specially someone like soontir. And more importantly. It is impossible to one shot it, hell, it is even pretty hard to two shot them.

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