Raider upgrade card identification

By Blue Seven, in X-Wing

Looks like it's two lines, with the second line starting with P1 or something of that sort. Any ideas?

... Pilot ...?

Veteran Pilot Team?

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Don't know what the card would be called,

but technically these guys are called Imperial Navy Troopers .

.... Imperial

Pilot Troopers

.... Navy

Pilot Team

..or something like that maybe.

I fail to see those guys in the preview?

We're talking about the last cards to not be identified.

It was pointed out they look like the back of the helmets.

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I thought that was a great call. When I was looking at the card, all I saw was some part of Vader and knew that couldn't be right, but those helmets seem like they just might be it.

Are you taking about the 2 identical cards in between the concussion missile and the gunner in that picture above? Because that is looking like a black droid to me, R3, P3, T3 or something.

Edited by Forgottenlore

Are you taking about the 2 identical cards in between the concussion missile and the gunner in that picture above? Because that is looking like a black droid to me, R3, P3, T3 or something.

Indeed - those look like black droids - crew, empire only. What will be their ability? Eating ion tokens?

That Concussion Missile is for the Tie Advanced I guess?. A Missile Slot on the Raider would be cool.

Yeah the missiles are likely for the advanced.

The unknown cards are between the missiles and a single team card rather than next to other crew so it seems unlikely to me that they're more crew. Since they are next to and above more teams it seems to me that the layout would 'work' better if they were a team too.

Maybe we'll see them in the next preview...

Edit: also, looking again at the product shot, I'm pretty sure the unknown duplicate card in the top row is a new missile. It looks like there should be two rows of text in the name of the card, although all that's visible looks like the M at the start of the second row. If you kind of squint, the text looks the same as the M from the two missiles to the left.

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What if it's a black droid crew like R4-K5 or R2-Q5

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R4-K5

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R2-Q5

I mean it looks like it's indoors and something black.

Are you taking about the 2 identical cards in between the concussion missile and the gunner in that picture above? Because that is looking like a black droid to me, R3, P3, T3 or something.

That was my original thinking, I just see the helmet also, plus the background is more like the helmet photo background.

Edit: also, looking again at the product shot, I'm pretty sure the unknown duplicate card in the top row is a new missile. It looks like there should be two rows of text in the name of the card, although all that's visible looks like the M at the start of the second row. If you kind of squint, the text looks the same as the M from the two missiles to the left.

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What if it's a black droid crew like R4-K5 or R2-Q5

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R4-K5

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R2-Q5

I mean it looks like it's indoors and something black.

Are you taking about the 2 identical cards in between the concussion missile and the gunner in that picture above? Because that is looking like a black droid to me, R3, P3, T3 or something.

That was my original thinking, I just see the helmet also, plus the background is more like the helmet photo background.

I think it could go either way. I thought it was a droid initially, but those helmets do look spot on. Both options are pretty exciting, anyway!

My guess is droides as personal, like R2-D2 or the EWD-15 Repair Droid

Edited by 19Seven2

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=5325

Just noticed that they are reusing card art from X-wing for Armada cards, which means the unidentified pair could already be out there. Anyone who also plays Armada check on that angle?

They re-use art for all their games. It could also be in the LCG or RPGs.

So, what are the knowing upgrades???, greettings

So, what are the knowing upgrades???, greetings

Um.... The very first post in this thread?

Of curse, but any else???, greettings.

Please read the thread.

They re-use art for all their games. It could also be in the LCG or RPGs.

ok, I guess I could have been clearer, I meant

HOLY COW those crew upgrade cards in Armada

look identical to the crew upgrade cards in X-wing,

they may have already released the Raider crew card

that we're looking for !! For those who own Armada:

Are there any new team upgrade cards in Armada?

Are there any new droids we should be looking for? *wink*

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... just cause I like them

... oh the potential.

So after taking a closer look, I'm going to go out on a limb and said it's not a team,

it would be too off center. So then it really could be a pair of R2-Q2s

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R2-Q2_(Imperial)

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Epiphany time:

It's a pair of Mouse Droid crew cards.

I have no idea what they might do.

Epiphany time:

It's a pair of Mouse Droid crew cards.

I have no idea what they might do.

MSE-6-series repair droid .

The MSE-6-series repair droid, sometimes referred to as the mouse droid, was a small, box-shaped, wheeled general purpose MSE-series droid often used for delivery and maintenance purposes. MSE-6 units were most notably on Star Destroyers and both Death Stars during the time of the Galactic Empire.

The MSE-6 stood about 25 centimeters tall and ran on four wheels. Although programmed with multiple capabilities, the droid was designed with only a singular function. A modular circuit matrix was installed beneath the droid's boxy shell, and contained programming for one skill. Commonly, mouse droids carried out cleanup and basic repair duties, and could serve in security and communications fields. Since each droid possessed only a single skill, multiple mouse droids could chain together to pool their resources for more complex assignments. Trains of MSE-6 droids could often be seen guiding troops through military installations; this kind of duty required mouse droids to be programmed with complete readouts of their assigned areas. In addition, due to their use in military outposts, MSE-6 units were rigged to melt down if captured, giving the droids a strong self-preservation instinct.

Considering we already have the WED-15 repair droid, I'd be surprised it it was for repair.

But on the other hand it could be another repair droid and just not "Huge ship only."

May be something like you can discard the droid to discard a face up damage card,

or in other words the imperial version of Chewbacca but not unique (4 points).

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Edited by gabe69velasquez

Since each droid possessed only a single skill, multiple mouse droids could chain together to pool their resources for more complex assignments.

This part stuck out to me as the best way to make the mouse droid different.

MSE-6 Repair Droid

Huge Ship, Imperial Only

Action: Spend 1 energy. For every MSE-6 Repair Droid present on this ship, discard one of your facedown damage cards.

1 point.

You make it cheaper than the WED-15 because it can't fix crits, and to make it a bit more feasible to stack them (though they'd be taking up a lot fo crew slots). Also, the WED-15 remains useful for the Raider since it's the only way to get rid of crit effects.

just looked throught all the LCG cards. nothing found that looks like those cards between the missiles and the gunner team.

i've been looking at those cards for ages too
i think they look like TIE Pilots from the back
just a thought

i've been looking at those cards for ages too

i think they look like TIE Pilots from the back

just a thought

Since each droid possessed only a single skill, multiple mouse droids could chain together to pool their resources for more complex assignments.

This part stuck out to me as the best way to make the mouse droid different.

MSE-6 Repair Droid

Huge Ship, Imperial Only

Action: Spend 1 energy. For every MSE-6 Repair Droid present on this ship, discard one of your facedown damage cards.

1 point.

You make it cheaper than the WED-15 because it can't fix crits, and to make it a bit more feasible to stack them (though they'd be taking up a lot fo crew slots). Also, the WED-15 remains useful for the Raider since it's the only way to get rid of crit effects.

That's innovative, but I'd say closer to 3 points each.

If a ship were able to equip three R2-D2 crew that would be 12 points.

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So after taking a closer look, I'm going to go out on a limb and said it's not a team,

it would be too off center. So then it really could be a pair of R2-Q2s

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R2-Q2_(Imperial)

I guess I don't understand your argument. The fifth card from the right looks very much like the Gunnery Team, and your image proves to me that it is.

Now the two cards next to it (6th and 7th from the right) could be anything. The image you have from the Wookiee will not be represented, because FFG comes up with their own card art.

Now the two cards next to it (6th and 7th from the right) could be anything. The image you have from the Wookiee will not be represented, because FFG comes up with their own card art.

Not always. There are quite a few examples in the LCG that come from the LFL archive. I know Hobbie and Marksmanship are from covers, for certain.

So after taking a closer look, I'm going to go out on a limb and said it's not a team,

it would be too off center. So then it really could be a pair of R2-Q2s

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R2-Q2_(Imperial)

I guess I don't understand your argument. The fifth card from the right looks very much like the Gunnery Team, and your image proves to me that it is.

Now the two cards next to it (6th and 7th from the right) could be anything. The image you have from the Wookiee will not be represented, because FFG comes up with their own card art.

I take it Vorpal likes your comment because he's equally confused.

The first image of the many cards shows the original (last) unidentified pair of cards. It has the Gunnery Team card pasted in almost to scale with the unidentified pair, and it has a piece of the unidentified card overlaid, at the same scale, to a copy of the Gunnery Team card just to show that the name text if properly centered could not be a team because the text would not be that long or it would not be properly centered.

The two released cards after that, WED & Chewie have nothing to do with identifying the card visually, they are only speculation about the possible abilities, were the unidentified cards "repair droid" teams of some kind.

Part 1 is deductive, and part 2 is speculative. You say that the last two cards to be identified could be anything but there are plenty of people who have good ideas about what they probably are. We have deduced most of the cards (did you see the second full list has links?), and have deduced that the last two are not crew (crew/team/crew layout), very unlikely to be missiles (x1/x4 not x2 cards), so most probably a team. Which I personal doubt because the title would be off center.

Get it now?

Edited by gabe69velasquez